Why did SERGIO MARTINEZ......

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  1. str1

    str1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And what makes Pirog so special? :think Oh yes, he beat a prospect in Jacobs...stupid me :patsch and hasn't done **** after that.
     
  2. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, the Pirog offer came after the Barker fight, and Martinez had a higher guarantee vs Macklin per the terms of the contract extension with DiBella. You're the one who needs to get your facts straight.
     
  3. WatchfortheHook

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    Well, most people thought that British bum Macklin whooped Sturm's ass, which is basically what got Macklin the fight with Sergio.

    And I respectfully disagree, I think Macklin is better than Lee and Zbik. I really just don't think much of Lee. But, I very well could be in the minority.
     
  4. thawk888

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    They approached him before the Barker bout, but the real offer came only days after the fight. So you mean to tell me Sergio knew within ten days what he was gonna make against Macklin? Keep reaching.
     
  5. purephase

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    His contract extension guaranteed him more than he made vs Barker for his next fight. Glad to see you concede you were wrong about the timing of the Pirog offer though.
     
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  7. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But it was still less than the Pirog offer, so you have no point. And Pirog is an actual belt holder. The excuses some of you suckas make around here.
     
  8. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes I do. Merely being a greater offer does not automatically cancel out the aforementioned points that it would provide him no exposure, limit his US dates, and eliminate him from ever getting Chavez, not to mention that it would essentially be the case of a lesser-known challenger setting the conditions of the fight.
     
  9. thawk888

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    So let's get this straight. A belt, career high payday, beating one of the legitimate top fighters of your weight class. Can't do it, because I have an easier fight and make more than half a million less but thanks for the offer.

    Clear like glass.
     
  10. thawk888

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    So Macklin, a non-belt holder, means more than an undefeated middleweight champ that is recognized as one of the top guys in the weight class.

    How the **** would fighting and beating Pirog eliminate him from getting a Chavez fight? I'd like to hear this.
     
  11. Serb Can

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    Yeah I don't really like the fact that Sergio is still calling Chavez a chicken to this day in the face off. Sergio has been after a big payday for a while now and he's getting what he wished for, no? A year or two ago this fight would probably be on HBO WCB, now it's reached it's climax and is on PPV. Sergio needs to shut up and be thankful. It's all good though, Chavez handles all the trash talk well and is more concerned with just bringing it this Saturday.
     
  12. Santino

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    That's the reason why floyd and manny are not very keen on facing each other.
     
  13. purephase

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    That he had just been stripped of for no reason whatsoever.
    And Macklin wasn't?
    Can't do it because I can actually take a fight that would raise my profile and long-term earning potential in a less hostile territory against a better regarded fighter that people outside of Russia could actually watch on something besides a crappy internet stream, but thanks for the offer.
     
  14. thawk888

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    Yea sure, it raised Sergio's profile so much that he's making half of what Chavez Jr. is making. He wasn't even in a position to negotiate 50/50. Yet he could've actually won the WBO strap after defeating Pirog, which would have put him in a better position at the negotiating table.

    But yea, Macklin helped him out a ton. :roll:
     
  15. purephase

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    Wow, I hadn't realized I was speaking to someone who held sanctioning body belts as sacred. Clearly the top 4 guys in every division are the beltholders.

    Macklin was coming off a fight against Sturm that the vast majority of people had him winning. Pirog beat a prospect for a belt that Martinez had been stripped of for no reason whatsoever and over the next year made two easy defenses in Russia. Most people had Macklin rated higher than Pirog at the time of the fight, but I guess the almighty WBO trinket should have been the tiebreaker.
    Because the second Martinez wins that belt, Sulaiman removes his mandatory status and Chavez, Top Rank, and HBO can go about their business as if he doesn't exist.