Why did SERGIO MARTINEZ......

I forgot, he was the EBU middleweight champ. :nut

 

LOL WUT? You think Top Rank is going to give a **** that Martinez has another belt? I'm sure not appearing on US TV in 2012 would have really prompted Top Rank to make that fight ASAP and open their coffers to pay the guy who just beat the obscure Russian. I guess Bradley should get a bigger cut in a potential Mayweather fight as well since Tim holds two belts to Floyd's none.

 

Who are these imaginary people?

I like how you come up with these imaginary scenarios and pass them off as fact. Chavez asked for this fight or he wouldn't renew his contract. I guess Martinez was lucky he fought Macklin cause then magically, Chavez would've never took that stance.

 

I hadn't realized there were actual boxing fans who still consider belts not only the best determinants of quality in each division but also the major determinants of purse splits. It's such a cute and amusing perspective.

 

You keep making **** up. You read too many opinion posts.

So by your logic, fighting Macklin, got Martinez 1.5 mill against Chavez. I just want to make sure this is what your argument is.

 

It does, whether you want to admit it or not.

 

The Ring had Macklin 3 and Pirog 6. Rafael also had Macklin rated above Pirog, as did Scott Christ (who still has Macklin ahead of Pirog).

There would have been nowhere near this amount of pressure on Chavez to make the fight if Martinez had picked up another belt in a fight that no one saw.

 

My basic argument this entire time has been that not fighting in Russia could not be constituted as a duck. Please let me know what I made up above; if I follow your logic, fighting off TV in Russia would have somehow given Martinez a bigger guarantee against Chavez (50-50? ) despite not actually increasing his fan base or exposure at all.

 

So the top 4 fighters currently competing at welterweight: Randall Bailey (IBF), Timothy Bradley (WBO), Paulie Malignaggi (WBA) and Floyd. Why do people want to see Floyd fight Manny at all when he could take on one of these far superior titans? I'm also sure Bailey, Bradley, and Malignaggi have a greater claim to a bigger purse than Pacquiao.

 

Oh, you mean the same guys who have the number 1 spot at welterweight as "vacant"? Hilarious.

There was no added pressure due to the Macklin fight. There was trash talk and people calling for Chavez to fight Martinez far before either Barker or Macklin fight.

Martinez didn't look stellar in either fights. Might've worked in his favor if no one saw his fight with Pirog.

 

Nice to see you can't think outside of extremes.

You're talking about two fighters (Mayweather/Pacquiao) that transcend rankings in their respective weight classes. But keep going, you're entertaining.

 

Not fighting a champ in your division who is offering you the biggest payday of your career (fact), just because it's not on tv in the U.S. is a duck and or mismanagement.

He's still not making 3 million for a fight. When he does, you'll eventually be right, I guess.

 

The Ring ratings have gone downhill but you're the one trying to validate the sanctioning bodies. I'm comfortable with my position.

Would have been even less pressure if he fought Pirog in Russia since 1) he wouldn't have appeared on HBO that year and thus been out of the consciousness of both the fans and the network and 2) the WBC would no longer have a formal obligation to guarantee the fight would take place.

 

Simply trying to apply the brilliant logic you've displayed, where promoters somehow care about the belts above all else when negotiating splits and the sanctioning bodies somehow care about being meritocratic.

 

So would you advise Martinez to take this Pirog fight over the offer he signed from Chavez? Because it is absolutely hilarious if so.