Why did Sonny Liston die?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by catasyou, Dec 28, 2008.


  1. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Give me his autopsy report then.
     
  2. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    So why bring it up?Who cares what idiots think?The man is an ATG and always will be.H2H would be very good.
     
  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Use google or read the damn articles posted here previously.At least this much is known.
     
  4. True Writer

    True Writer Active Member Full Member

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    Liston in life was an enigma born out of many myths, his death was no different. I doubt he was killed, if he was on drugs then he got what was coming to him.

    I think he was the kind of guy that would have obeyed mafia orders, this is a guy that took a couple of dives.

    If he had been killed then someone by now would have talked about it.
     
  5. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    It has been talked about.There have been a lot of shows but as many other cases the truth probably died with Sonny and we will never know.
    And he didn't floow orders...he was suppose to lose to Wepner.
     
  6. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what is "because he did not want to live anymore" ...thank you alex i'll have football greats for 800...ooo daily double
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This is certainly the most compeling source of evidence available now, and the obvious starting point.

    It should be noted that coronary artery disease would be unusual in a man of his age.

    Is there anything you can think of that might have contributed to it?
     
  8. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably Mafia-influenced death.
     
  9. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "A healthy strong guy like him most likely doesn't die that young of 'natural causes'.

    They do all the time. Pete Maravich was 40 and in good condition. I was watching on TV when Chuck Hughes, 28, collapsed and died in an NFL game in 1971. J V Cain of the St Louis Cardinals collapsed and died, also at 28, in 1979. Antonio Puerto and Chaswe Nsofwa, world football players, both collapsed and died in 2007. All these young men died of heart attacks. About 20 high school athletes die each year. Athlete's are actually vulnerable because of the pressure put on the heart leading to "athlete's heart"--an enlarged heart while the diseased arteries remain narrow.

    Bottom line--It is certainly unusual for a man of Liston's age to die of a heart attack, but not "shockingly unusual". It happens all the time.
     
  10. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Coronary artery disease seems to be genetic. Some just have a predisposition to it.

    Bad habits such as drinking and smoking and drug abuse can't help. I have never heard of Liston smoking, but he did seem to be a binge drinker and apparently, off the autopsy, was into heroin. Whether he generally abused his body by irregular eating or sleeping habits, or a poor diet, I have no idea.
     
  11. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Just because it's unusual doesn't mean it can't be the cause. My old man was very fit and in shape, but died young because of the same heart-related cause.
     
  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're aware that when he came back to his own town with the heavyweight championship of the world no one arrived to greet him?

    He was not a popular man in his time as a fighter, especially when he was HW champion. Looking at how he's thought of today has no bearing on how he was perceived while he was still alive.
     
  13. Grebfan9

    Grebfan9 Member Full Member

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    I'm a BIGTIME Sonny Liston fan. So, I hope that posters don't think that
    I'm looking to disparage him.

    Sonny had a very hard life from day one. All the crap from his abusive
    father, then he ran with a bad crowd & did some serious jail time.

    Sonny did drink heavily, that seems certain. Did he use heroin?

    Like a poster stated, he could have been smoking and/or snorting it.

    His career was basically over after the KO loss to Leotis Martin &
    he was probably struggling along.

    Plus, Sonny was probably a bit older than his "official" age.

    Heavy drinking + a lifetime of serious stress. Quite possible that he
    just suffered a heart attack and died.


    Grebfan9
    www.firstroundboxing.com
     
  14. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I just can't see him jus being dead all of a sudden.Something happened
     
  15. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Why the irrational reasoning?


    Not everything happens for a dramatic reason. People die from natural or stupid causes all the time. Get over it.