Why did Team Manny make such a big deal about drug testing

and Pascal asked Hopkins to take the test after the contract was already signed and in the middle of a press conference.
Mayweather requested it in silence through negotiations. Floyd Mayweather Jr. never even hinted at Pacquiao taking anything until the Mosley fight was already signed

 

Why do you still go back to those times when later on PBF admitted that his health comes first! It only means all other things that were said was to back that up. But then people pressured PBF so he went to admit it. It's just some fanboys who can't accept the fact that they try and salvage his image.

 

Whether Pac institutes OSDT in his own fights has zero relevancy to his negotiations with Floyd for a potential fight. The point is, Pac's demonstrated a willingness to negotiate the issue of testing to secure a fight against Floyd - and Floyd's side rather than negotiating, offered an uncompromising demand in terms of testing protocol and purse split.

Floyd offered a flat 40 mil, Pac's team offered a flat 45 mil to which Floyd never countered. (not to mention the various percentage split suggestions that were shunned)

 

yeah that's what I'm emphasizing too man. That's the main reason they looked so bad and the media did an awful job covering it and just bought everything.

He is afraid of needles according to Koncz and Khan, but he has multiple tattoos

He will be weak if he gets his blood drawn within 30 days, but he is on tape getting his blood drawn 24 days before the Hatton fight


this is what everybody is suspicious of

 

Floyd accepted their non-commisioned 10 million dollar pound request and team pac tucked tail and ran to Clottey. Not to mention the pussies then went to the law. Manny has never seen a 20 million dollar payday in his life as well pal so dont know why he turned down his highest pay day.:hi:

 

Being offended wasn't the only influential reasoning for them resisting to bending to Floyd's whims. Their position also was that they weren't going to be dictated to testing protocol unless it came from a sanctioned boxing authority - not a fellow boxer who has no such power.

It's also true that the negotiation process was a symbol in many ways of which side had more power and clout and both parties were well aware and engaged in this contest. That said, Pac's side still demonstrated a willingness to compromise to get a fight done where as Floyd's side were steadfast in their demands.

 

Agreed on all counts. Mayweather and Arum are incapable of negotiating in good faith with each other. One of the two would always move the goal posts just to spite the other.

That said, the way they handled the PED testing was horrible; like a husband who immediately starts stammering and talking nonsense the second he is accused of infidelity.

 

He probably was on PEDS, and who isn't these days in professional sports? Legalize and regulate the **** already. Whoever thinks pro athletes are role models needs their ****ing head checked (big pacman fan here btw).

 

This is probably the most overstated and unsubstantial concession that Floyd actually made.

The 10 mil per lb stipulation was only suggested to deter Floyd from doing something that he's already demonstrated that he was capable of doing which is to weigh in heavy. Furthermore Floyd, early in the negotiations which Pac, expressed an interest in the fight being made at 154 (which we can assume was more of an attempt to gain a mental edge at the negotiation table than a real necessity)

And you do realize that Floyd what have by far and away made his highest payday off of Pac? - so it's mutual. Had Pac taken Floyd's weak 40 mil offer, Floyd would have likely netted a purse in excess of 100 mil.

 

They did except but floyd kept moving the goal posts of who gets more money etc then blamed the negotiations falling through on the testing.

 

Real Simple - EGO!

 

this is not true, Floyd came out after the Pac-Cotto fight in 2009....get your lies straight man.

 

The negotiation process was surely a struggle for power. And I agree Pac's side lowered their stance during negotiations on testing while Floyd's didn't. The difference there was Floyd had accepted their custom penalty per pound over, not tried to negotiate it for a different amount. If Floyd requested they change their penalty per pound to a lower amount, a large amount of people would take that request as admission he's not planning on coming in at weight... The same admission people take from Team Pac's multiple reasons for not accepting testing. If you test, you do it right. No point in random testing with blackout windows.

Again, if you're offended why are you willing to take the tests on a modified schedule? If you're not gong to be dictated to, why are you humoring these negotiations? Each time they were 'willing to compromise' they offered something that previously was taken off the table by Floyd... Do you think after Floyd beat Shane and said all opponents will have to do this testing, he was going to accept a cutoff for Pac?

 

find me a quote from Floyd Mayweather Jr hinting at Pacquiao taking PEDs before the Mosley fight was signed. Go ahead, I've had this argument before and never once could anybody find any evidence.

Here is an interview right after Pac/Cotto and not once did he talk about testing or PEDs. You'd think he'd bring it up here

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it's a good interview btw and I recommend it to everybody

 

"what is steroid?"