Why Did Teddy Atlas Pull a Gun on Mike Tyson??

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  1. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what happened to teddys face? he looks like he got his head ran over by a car. does he have brain damage? he certainly slurs his words and constantly repeats himself.
     
  2. chitownfightfan

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    :lol:Well.....I judge by your laugh your'e being sarcastic about the HANDS ON APPROACH.

    A 12 y/o Tyson would probably rip Teddy's liver out and feed it to him with his mild manners.
    (In Tyson's young voice): Im sowwy Teddy, I didn't mean to eviscerate yew, bu I made you a delicious liver an onions dinner to help you recuperate. :lol::lol:

    As for Teddy's motives for wanting to kill Tyson....

    He's a frigging loon.....He thinks he's some New York DON, who owns the AMs he helped develope.

    Look how he treated LaLonde before and after his CW fight with SRL.:huh:huh:-:)-(
     
  3. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Because he's American.
     
  4. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because he,s related to John Wayne...
     
  5. ReverendSultan

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  6. woodzo

    woodzo Active Member Full Member

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    think it was something to do with tyson forcing himself on his niece or something.... his niece was about 12 at the time or something daft as well
     
  7. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Teddy is a wanna be thug who can't back it up with his fists.Tyson ,even at that young age would have kicked the sh*#it out of Atlas.
     
  8. EnzoRD

    EnzoRD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, this :lol:
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Because Teddy is a real OG not some wannabe street punk who only acts tough when they have 20 of their homies to back them up.

    A 15 year old Tyson>>>> 99% of 26 year old men in a physical confrontation.

    Mike crossed a line and Teddy pulled rank and taught him a valuable lesson: That there are consequences for your actions and that he would make him pay for them dearly if he ever dared to step over that line again. Teddy could've just given him a severe beating but putting a gun to his head and threatening to blow his brains out was a much more effective method to get through to him. ''You keep that filthy wang of yours in your pants when you're around my kin or you are going to die.'' He made him stare over the edge of the abyss and contemplate his own mortality. It was a lesson that Mike badly needed to learn back then. He did him a huge favour and society too.

    Personally I think Teddy should've pulled the trigger. Not when he had it aimed at his head or anything - that would've been an overreaction on his part IMO - but rather he should've just moved the barrel to the side a couple of inches or so and let a round go to really ram the message home that he wasn't playing. Or maybe he should've just given him a little superficial wound to let him know he meant business. Like blowing a piece of his earlobe off or something.

    Perhaps Mike wouldn't have turned out the way he did had Teddy done so. Who knows perhaps he would'n't have self-destructed at an early age and thrown his career down the pan, or been sent to the pen for violating the delectable Miss Washington's ass or be the bi-polar manic depressive of today who can't function like a normal human being without the aid of a whole host of various antidepressants, mood stabilizers and weekly visits to his shrink.
     
  10. ki_ote

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    You mean he'd get his head ripped off his neck without a gun.
    That why G's need guns, because they're a bunch of pu$$ies that hide behind guns or hang in groups to look tough.
     
  11. Dubblechin

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    Because Teddy is the mildly ret@rded son of a wealthy physician. He comes from a very wealthy family. But he was the half-wit rich kid who acted like he was from the "streets."

    His face got messed up when he actually tried to participate in a street fight and he got slashed with a blade all the way down the side of his face. Of course, he ran home to dad, who stitched him up and probably bought him a new car hoping he'd make new friends.

    Then Teddy ended up working for free with Cus to train fighters (because Teddy couldn't get a job in the family business because he wasn't smart enough). And, occasionally, pros would come to train at the gym and Teddy would meet them and some would give him jobs working their corners.

    You'll find him in the corners of fighters like Simon Brown in the 1980s. The problem was NOBODY he worked with kept him around for very long - just a few fights - because they all recognized quickly he was just full of cr@p.

    That's why he pulled a gun on Tyson. That's why he pulled a cell phone on Michael Moorer while Moorer was stinking out the joint against Holyfield in their first meeting.

    Atlas doesn't really know what to do when things don't go his way. When he screwed up as a kid, his dad just bought him out of all his troubles. Because he was the slow kid in the family.

    The other problem is Atlas learned everything he knew from Cus D'Amato, who wasn't a trainer - he was a manager - and D'Amato basically knew one style of fighting, and everyone who came to his gym were taught the exact same style (regardless of their physical tools). And that style didn't work for 99.9% of the guys who came through there.

    Atlas always wanted the training career of Freddie Roach. The difference is Roach was actually a boxer, and Roach learned how to train fighters from Eddie Futch (who was 10 levels above guys like D'Amato).

    Now Atlas is going to get to compete across the ring from Roach. And watch Atlas self-destruct in the corner when Bradley starts losing again.

    And when Bradley loses, Atlas will throw him under the bus after the fight, like he does with everyone he trains who loses. "The fighter didn't do what I said. The fighter didn't listen. The fighter didn't do what we worked on in the gym."

    You'll never hear Atlas say: "What we worked on in the gym was the wrong strategy. I messed up when I told the fighter to do this. I put together the wrong plan. We had no PLAN B because I don't know what to do if PLAN A doesn't work."

    Atlas is a joke.
     
  12. Dubblechin

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    If a "G" is the slow kid who bags groceries at your local store, then you're right. Teddy is a "G."

    Most fighters are from the streets. Most corner men and trainers are from the streets.

    Atlas' dad started a hospital in New York. Atlas didn't grow up in the streets. He was a rich kid.

    Saying Atlas is a G is like saying Donald Trump's son is a G.
     
  13. Dubblechin

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    Yes, when a rich kid tries to join in with others in a street fight, he usually gets the worst of it. And Atlas certainly did.

    The problem in the boxing world is there are so many punch drunk people around, when a mildly ret@rded guy with a scar shows up ... people assume he just took too many beatings.

    Atlas wasn't a fighter.

    He's slow.

    He was the kid with his mouth hanging open in the family portrait.

    He was from a wealthy family, but he was too mentally slow to actually hold a job. And his family was wealthy enough that he didn't have to.

    That's why he could get married and have kids ... and work for free at a gym for years waiting for people to pay him a couple hundred dollars to work a corner once in a while.

    That's why, when he actually found some boxers who made money who let him work with them, he never lasted very long.

    That's why he took a gun and went with another "slow" friend to Donnie Lalonde's house to kill Lalonde - when Lalonde dumped Atlas before Lalonde signed to fight Sugar Ray Leonard for millions - because Atlas was finally going to make millions like his dad ... and Lalonde denied him that chance.

    And that's why when "slow" Teddy and his "slow" friend drove to Atlas' house, and Teddy took his gun and knocked on the door ... THEY HAD THE WRONG HOUSE. Lalonde hadn't lived there in years.

    Their "perfect" murder plan didn't involve actually finding out if Lalonde still lived there.

    :roll:

    When watching Atlas, just keep in mind he was never a fighter and never got punched in the head like fighters do.

    He's the "slow" cousin you see around the holidays. Most boxers just don't pick up on that until they're around him for a little while.
     
  14. Serge

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    Briggs, Atlas, and a few other aspiring fighters and a manager entered a grimy restaurant in Biloxi. Briggs had his dreadlocks painted orange and fashioned on top of his head. When they entered, they were greeted with harsh laughter.

    "What the **** is that on your head, boy? What kinda ****** are you?" Even then it took me a second to realize that it was directed at my guys, that it was a racial thing. The three of them, Shannon, Troy, and Mark, were by the door of the restaurant, up this set of steps. THere were these other guys standing there, and words were being exchanged. I started up the steps. I could see Shannon trying to go past these guys into the restaurant. One of the guys, the biggest one, a muscular bruiser with long hair and a beard, in an oil stained gimme cap, stepped in his way. "Where do you think you're going," He said. Then he shoved Shannon, who fell back into me. "You better go back where you came from, boy" the guy said. the rest of them laughed. I stepped past Shannon and got right in the face of the guy who had pushed him.

    "Who the **** you talkin to?" I said."Why, you gonna do something? They aint gonna do nuthin, you gonna do somethin?" "Yeah, I sure am!" I said, and cracked him one on the jaw. One of his friends came at me and I turned and cracked him. Then the first guy grabbed hold of me, and he was big. He pulled me toward him, and we started to fall backward toward the stairs. As we started to fall, I heard Shannon scream, "Teddy!," like he thought I was about to be hurt, but as I was falling I twisted the big guy around and fell on top of him. We crashed down the stairs and his big body cushioned my fall. All my weight was on him and his head slammed against teh ground and cracked wide open. I was able to get right up, but he was out, unconscious and bleeding.

    Then these other guys came out of the restaurant.It turned into a brawl. Mark and Troy stayed off to the side, but Shannon joined in, and we busted up a bunch of them. We worked our way back to the parking lot. I said to Mark, "Get Shannon in the car and get him outta here" He was my fighter and I was there to protect him. While I was holding these guys at bay, I told mark and shannon to take off. Shannon didnt want to, but mark pushed him into the car. They drove away.

    Troy and I made our way back to the road with a couple of these guys still following us. they were acting braver now that there was just me and troy- plus it was clear troy wasn't a fighter. We were walking toward this gas station down the road,and they were about fifty feet behind us. Troy was getting nervous.

    "Ted, they're still following us."
    "Slow down, let em catch up" I said.
    "They're coming after us," troy said.
    "Im just leading them to where i want them, they got anything in their hands?" Troy looked back, I didn't want to look back. "No," he said

    "good"
    I was very calm, which reassured him. we'd gotten them to where it was a little dark, just past the gas station, away from their friends. They were right behind us now, i could hear them saying things like mother****er this, ****** that, etc. Suddendly, I turned around, "Yeah, mother****er? I'm a mother****er?" I walked right toward them, They weren't expecting it, they were taken off guard. I hit one of the guys so hard I thought it might have killed him.I dropped him with one shot. The other guy, when I started toward him, took off. Troy said, "Oh ****!"


    We started to go back to our hotel when we saw all the cop cars there.We started running through people's yards, we managed to get to our room unseen, we saw them go into the manager's office and out comes the manager with them, starting towards our rooms.Cops had their guns out.Just before the footsteps reached the door, I heard the voice of Les Bonano, the police chief of new orleans, a fight promoter, he was talking to the head police officer. It was like the cavalry had arrived.

    Apparently, the guys who we beat up told the police that we had guns,and the cops wouldve gotten us for sure if les hadnt showed up and explained the situation, that we were boxers, there for a prizefight.They hadn't believed that we beat all those guys up with just our fists, but when he explained everything and how we didnt have guns, they left.

    Overnight, the story turned into legend. When we went to the weight in the next day, the building was packed. Everyone knew about what had happened, all these old southern guys who were the commisioners, they'd all heard. The details of the incident got exaggerated. We'd beaten up 8-10 guys, Tommy Morrison, who was fighting on the same card, came over to us and said, "Ten guys had you cornered? Man!" shannon briggs told everyone, all his friends, and the story made it all the way to Michael Moorer in detroit. By then it was ,"Hey, teddy kicked the **** out of like, 20 rednecks. He knocked out ten of them. Two of them died."
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Real recognizes real :deal

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