Why did the K's never fight Holyfield

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  1. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Let me get the troll comments out of the way first "they were terrified of him, they knew he would expose them", blah blah.

    But seriously, I'm interested in serious answers if anyone has them. I know Evander wanted a title shot at them badly when they both had titles. He came off a good showing against Valuev at the end of 2008. It would have been credible enough to choose him as an opponent, you've got to figure it would be lucrative enough, and realistically no rational poster can honestly argue he wouldn't have been one of their easiest defenses at that stage of his career. And it would have given them the biggest "name" of their career, which is so important to some people.

    Just a very obvious fight for either to take, ultimate low risk high reward.
     
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  2. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    They had too much respect for Evander and didn't want to build their careers on the name of a faded great.
     
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  3. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    This exactly...!!!
     
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  4. IsaL

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    I think the consensus feeling was that they didnt need to or feel like preying on an over the hill hasbeen.
     
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  5. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That was kind of my vibe, but I think they were overly honorable. It's also very ironic. Coming off his Valuev fight, Holyfield was arguably as legitimate a "contender" as George Foreman and Larry Holmes in the early 90's, and Holyfield felt no compunction about using them to get great "name" victories on his ledger at a low risk.

    They've both paid the price in the blogs, people are being dishonest with themselves if they don't admit they would think more highly of the K's resumes if it had even the badly faded Holyfield on it. I give more credit to Holyfield for his two names (and obviously, Foreman struck gold and legitimized it more later on) than if he'd faced some other contender, its just human nature.
     
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  6. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You'll get massively trolled for this.. saying that, it's honestly the most probable reason.

    They were making big bucks every fight, no reason to try to gain a few unnecessary extra mills.
    Must be sweet being that ****ing wealthy. Between the two of them it's great but sickening for us average joes
     
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  7. itsa

    itsa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They didn't duck evander. They ducked Toney
     
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  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    You got it backwards, Toney avoided Wlad Klitschko:

    After turning down a 1.5 million dollar offer to challenge for Wladimir Klitschko’s IBF Heavyweight title, James Toney (69-4-3, 43 KOs) has signed to fight Sam Peter (26-1, 22 KOs) at Los Angeles’ Staples Center on September 2.

    http://www.fightreport.net/?p=742
     
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  9. itsa

    itsa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And he beat Peter more convincingly than wlad
     
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  10. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sure thing mate, but Toney avoided a fight with Wlad when it was on the table.
     
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  11. MVC!

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    I respect the Klits for not doing so. Holyfield was a great champ. They didn't need some washed up/faded/over the hill legend on their resume.
     
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  12. itsa

    itsa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they lowballed him. Toney KO'd wlad in sparring.
     
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  13. itsa

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    they could have used a legend tho
     
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  14. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    $1.5 million is lowballing Toney? A guy who is broke now? :rofl
     
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  15. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Yet wlad had no problem smashing Rahman, a legend who was shot to pieces (Vitali ran from him in prime)

    Also Vitali had no problem picking on shot Shannon Briggs

    They wanted no part of evander, even his corpse would have taken them to deep waters
     
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