Why did USADA stop blood testing Floyd & Shane 18 days prior to their fight?

That was my guess. He was the person who hired and paid them.

 

What makes a random test significant is the element of surprise. They can take the test just once and still be effective with preventing some one from juicing up, because they still have that element on there side. You don't know when there going to come again, so you won't take the chance of juicing because you stand a risk of getting caught. This is why Manny should agree to the test and stop using it as a way out from fighting Mayweather.

 

Analogies are always a good way for me to understand a concept. So let me try one here to get people to understand why the USADA did what they did.

Let's say that you were taking a 3 month course. In the beginning of the course, the professor tells you that at anytime during the 3 months, you will be subject to an unannounced quiz. Because of this, the students are constently making sure to study the material that is taught in the course. They do this because they know they can be quizzed at any time and they don't want to be caught unprepared.

Pretty frequently through out the first two months or so of the course, the students are quizzed; let's say at least twice a week. Now let's say for whole week in the last month of the class, the students are not quizzed. As a student in this class, would you all of a sudden stop studying because you weren't quizzed in a week? Unless you are foolish, the answer is no. You will keep studying because you know a quiz can come on any given day. From the prof's prospective, he or she can quiz less frequently at the end of the course or not at all. They can do this because they know the students have grasped the material, and will finish the course with a good understanding of the material. They also know that the students will probably keep studying out of habit and due to the knowledge that they can be quizzed at anytime.

The same is true for the USADA testing. They tested quite frequently for a good amount of time. Even without testing in the last 2 or 3 weeks, the fighters will continue to stay clean because they know they can be tested at any time. The USADA can feel confortable with not testing in the last few weeks because they're previous test results showed that there was no indication that either fighter had been using anything illegal. So for the USADA system not to work either one or both of the fighters would've had to gamble that the USADA would not test them again. This is of course would be highly unlikely. Why would either one of them play with fire like that just to dope for a week or two?

 

:happy

Logic prevails!

 

I hope you are joking. If not...

Change your name to johnnydumbass. :deal

 

So how would the teacher give grades then? Based on the results of the test given during the first few weeks where in you probably barely passed, or failed?

I wish I graduated from your school!

I have to do it the hard way.

Logic prevails!:happy:happy:happy

 

Well, I don't know all the details to the NSAC study. I like to see a link (I haven't read past page 8 btw if you already posted it) so I can review it. I also don't quite know how truly independent the study was. I don't think they would pay money just to look good, but maybe the doctors reviewed that it could find a little more athletes but the cost effect ratio just wasn't worth it. That's why I'd suspect.

You are just quite right with your last paragraph. But I don't see the relevancy in what you're saying.

 

Thread closed. :deal

 

The United States Anti-Doping Agency confirmed Friday that the final blood sample taken from Shane Mosley was April 12 and the final one taken from Floyd Mayweather was April 13 as part of their agreement to undergo random, Olympic-style testing prior to their May 1 welterweight boxing match in Las Vegas.

Mayweather won the fight by a wide unanimous decision. Each man was tested seven times prior to the fight and then again on the night of the fight by USADA, which will retain their samples for future testing. Each of the eight tests included required the fighters to provide urine samples; they were required to give blood four times.

Mayweather gave blood and urine on March 22, April 1, April 13 and then May 1 after the fight. He gave urine only on April 3, April 6, April 21 and April 24.

Mosley gave blood and urine on March 23, March 31, April 12 and then May 1 after the fight. He gave urine only on March 29, April 7, April 20 and April 26.

The news of the date of the final pre-fight blood draw – 18 days before the fight, in Mayweather’s case – might give hope to fans who want to see a bout between Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

An attempt to make the fight for March 13 failed when they couldn’t come to terms over Mayweather’s demand for random testing.

In a story written Thursday by Nick Giongco in the Manila Bulletin, Pacquiao said he would agree to a test as late as 14 days prior to a Mayweather bout provided they weren’t taking large samples.

“As long as they’re not getting a large amount of blood, I am willing to give out blood as close to two weeks before the fight,” Pacquiao told Giongco.

But if you’re thinking that concession will lead to Mayweather vs. Pacquiao on Nov. 13, slow down. There is a big difference between what Pacquiao told Giongco he’d agree to and what Mayweather and Mosley did, said Travis Tygart, the chief executive officer of USADA.

“That totally misses the point,” Tygart said of the reaction some may have upon hearing of Pacquiao’s concession and the timing of Mayweather’s last blood test. “If you know you aren’t going to be tested within the last 14 days, you can cheat and get away with it. It is our right to test at any time, 30 days before the fight, 20 days before, the week of, the morning of – that provides the deterrent. If you block out a period of time and say we can’t test during that period, then an athlete could cheat and get away with it.”

Tygart praised Mayweather and Mosley and said they fully embraced the program. They were, he said, “consummate professionals throughout the entire process.”

Top Rank’s Bob Arum, who promotes Pacquiao, still believes a 14-day cutoff is reasonable.

“Fourteen days should give them plenty of time to do what they need to do, especially in light of what they did with Mayweather and Mosley,” Arum said.

Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe said he doesn’t understand why a fuss would be made over the time of Mayweather’s final blood test. Ellerbe said Mayweather boxed at least 11 rounds, and as many as 14, after three of the blood draws.

“Random is random,” he said. “It could be at any time. That’s what random means. I will say this: If and when Floyd Mayweather decides to fight again, random blood and urine testing will be part of it. Period.”

Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer said he heard no complaints from either fighter about the testing program, terming it an unqualified success. Schaefer said he hoped that boxing promoters and other stakeholders could get together and adopt a plan under which similar testing would become a regular part of the sport.

“I’m not a drug-testing expert and I’ve never put together a testing program protocol, but where there is a will, there is a way,” Schaefer said. “Our interest as promoters should be to have a clean sport. At the end of the day, this is protecting our fighters and doing something positive for the sport.

 

What are you babbling about? He was giving an analogy you jackoff.

 

When is the article from?

I remember Mayweather saying the 1st time around after Arum and Pac walked away that he was willing to negotiate 14 days before the fight on a cutoff at that time (Obviously things changed since then).

 

Um let's... So "they test" refers to them running the testing moron. So "them" testing means that no matter when or if they don't test the fact that they are the group testing makes them the people testing Olympians. So just because they are the ones administering testing is NOT stating the every single competitor is tested idiot.

Saying "The U.S. Government provides U.S. citizens Social Security." does not mean that every single citizen will qualify or receive SS.

It is obvious you are the one who needs to learn how to process information in context. Stay in your weight class clown.

 

Apparently not, people are trying to apply real world application to his ANALOGY. As if BigReg is going by experience. The idiots.

 

Right idiot.

Pac's family is a family of organized criminals, attempted murders, marriage vow breakers, political cheaters, etc... Pac is most definitely slipping cash everywhere.

 

Exactly man. Mayweather offered 14 days, Pac said it wasn't offered, then admitted it was offered, and fought Clottey anyway doing 700k PPV buys. Mosley did all the testing and the fight was a success. Mayweather's position changed to 0 days or nothing. Why? Because even he was in the dark about what the procedures were about. After he saw the huge cut offs and realized that the people were professionals? Why deal with Pac's nonsense?

Pac is a great fighter, but come on. To put this on Mayweather is insane.