Why did USADA stop blood testing Floyd & Shane 18 days prior to their fight?

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Im pretty sure Landis admitted to cheating ?
     
  2. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  3. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    I did not know this. Must have been after this documentary came out. Oh boy this threads getting sidetracked.
     
  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Man... you are hopeless. Go back and read EVERYTHING I wrote.

    They do test all Olympians because all Olympians sign into the testing program. "All" in that context is the same as "full random blood/urine testing". It does not mean that "all" samples will be blood, urine, both, or even that tests will be taken! Per the protocol, the RIGHT to test is reserved therefore you are BEING TESTED!

    Discussion requires that you have an ounce of knowledge of the subject. The protocol outlines ALL of this. I take it you didn't read it? If you had maybe I would respect you and your opinion. It is your ignorance of the protocol that allows you to even make your statements.

    The summary of my posts was that the USADA is a capable and neutral organization and not going to do anything to physically harm Manny (or Mayweather). It is your simple ass that thinks that implementing a testing program for two competitors will be exactly the same for an event with thousands of competitors. Let me enlighten you... It isn't.

    I can see what you mean about the fight though. Although I don't even think it is the legal issues holding this all up. Manny just won't test. Point blank. You don't go from decisions with Oscar Larios and shot Barrera to cracking the face of arguably one of the most durable WWs in the game without "something". Lie, after lie, after lie...

    Step your game up. Bazooka? More like .22.
     
  5. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    Waiting for PEKPEK to respond...

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  6. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My point is ,Shane is a proven ped user. Why stop testing 18 days before the fight?
     
  7. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Yea he admitted to cheating.
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hey moron you are mentioning others? Manny and Jinkee are the ones implicated in the murder plot. Manny is the one cheating on his wife and being a false religious person. That is the whole picture.

    Yeah Manny is covered in jail house hepatitis special tattoos, but afraid of needles? Yes. You are that dumb. :deal
     
  9. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I put this on Manny, but agree with you completely about this all being different had Manny said "F U!" Had he said that and went off on his merry way? Fine. Instead he kept entering into negotiations and using it to sell alternative fights. Who would go through this again when the first time it took an earthquake in Haiti to secure Mayweather an opponent? Arum controls every division 147 and below. Get on his bad side? You are opponent-less. Mayweather isn't the first.

    Medically? I would have even said 7 days might have been reasonable if they (Team Pac) were open and honest about what they were willing to do, but that isn't what they did. They gave the impression of one thing and then sold a Margo fight based on that impression. Thank goodness for HBO to bust them.

    I feel 7 days is unreasonable because the second time everyone had gone through the testing and seen it wasn't that bad. Arum SPECIFICALLY said, "We sent all the terms to Mayweather." and Manny was in the press stating he "agreed to everything". (I even told everyone who would listen this as a trick.)

    Same trick, new roadblock, same result. A hyped fight at Mayweather's expense.

    If you were Mayweather? Imagine. You beat the number 1 PPV earner in the world to become the number 1 PPV earner. You beat the number 1 WW. You offer 14 days and the guy bails. Still YOU are the villian? I think I might just say F it too.

    Same here. I only defend Mayweather on what is readily verifiable per the press or is a REASONABLE assumption. If tomorrow Mayweather contradicts that? I will criticize him as well. Just like I know for a fact this drug testing BS has nothing to do with "cleaning up the sport" and everything to do with him being sure that if he loses he lost fairly. As you suggested, had Pac just said "F U!" this would have ALL been on Mayweather.

    Nobody can tell me at this point that "poor Pacman" is being led around blind. Pac is a willing participant in this. You either need to be Top Rank or basically become a free agent willing to subject yourself to whatever BS Arum (Pac) wants.
     
  10. pejevan

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    I always called you IDIOT! What changed now? Sensitive?

    I honestly mean it when I asked about your father. We may have difference in opinion because yours is obviously idiotic, but when it comes to scuh things, I have soft side too. :crying:

    You are still IDIOT though and that was almost 3 years already and it never chnaged my opinion.
     
  11. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    link???
     
  12. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    I have a medical degree and a medical science degree as undergraduate course so believe me when Baldie is an amateur to such matters.

    I for one disagreed about doing the test as close to the fight for an obvious reason of possibility of nerve damage, hematomas, etc. Just see thread 2 years ago.

    It is hard to reconcile a completely risk free testing considering that hematomas usually takes about 2 weeks to resolve.


    I reckon that 1 week cut-off would be entirely sufficient, although not entirely risk free, is within the acceptable risk to benefit range.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    because USADA is under the payroll of GBP and /or floyd for this fight and seeing that getting blood is quite risky, they do not want any complications that would happen come fight night. most probabaly, floyd and mosley also knew that they woud not be tested within this time frame too.
     
  14. bald_head_slick

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  15. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not from a real school. You practice medicine in third world hovels. :nono

    Nowhere in the protocol does it state that blood will b drawn 2 days or even two weeks before the fight. Blood drawing was stopped 18 days before the last fight the USADA ran the testing.

    You don't reckon anything. Your hero said he agreed to everything and was BUSTED only offering 7 days. That by default kills testing by the USADA. That by default KILLS THE FIGHT!

    How can you know crap about medicine? You can't follow a cogent argument. You are a robot nurse go-fer. No more. :deal
     
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