Why did USADA stop blood testing Floyd & Shane 18 days prior to their fight?

No the fact he WAS an Olympian implies that the testing is safe. The fact that the USADA still tests for all Olympians implies that they are capable.

The fact you can't seem to draw logical conclusions further illustrates why EVERYONE hates Pac fans.

 

He is tested randomly year round. All active fighters are. Pac is too.

That was never the issue. The issue was did Pac WANT to fight. If he does? Take the tests. If he doesn't? Keep fighting the drained guys he always does.

If you believe that you are a moron not me.

 

then what is Floyd doing in the Pro boxing world? He should have stayed in the Olympics! This is Pro Boxing, it has it's own rules, if he can't respect the fighters and the boxing commissions, he might as well retire and stay on vacation.

 

and how many olympian's medals have been stripped because of the competence of USADA?

 

Umm lets talk about **** we know not **** we think we know, The USADA does not test Olympians, they test the finalist if that, the cost and time involved is just too much to test all that compete....

 

The USADA I highley doubt we are dealing with Dr's in fact I wouldnt be surprised to learn that they are nurses collecting the blood or lab techs...

Dr's regarding this whole testing issue sided with a 2 week cut off period in favor of Pacquiao do to the saftey risk involved and these are Drs who work with the commission and who are ring side for each and every fight..

Sorry but I will take the word of a Dr over a ****ing nurse who works for the USADA

 

random sampling in statistics means you're randomly picking out a sample out of a population...like a small portion of the entire whole.
how does this "random" method fit into random blood testing? what are these sampling strategies you are alluding to? surely they're not different techniques on how to acquire blood/urine...

 

Calculated risk.
They figure drugs they can effectively use within 18 days can be detected by urine. The very minimal risk of using drugs within that period is mitigated correspondingly by the threat of being tested within those 18 days. If you know about actuarial science or just plain probability and statistics you'd understand.

Basically they deem it unnecessary to blood test in 18 days, that only urine is necessary and they don't want to take the medical risk which would be bad publicity for their cause. It's a business ffs.

 

What were the actual dates they tested, both for Floyd and Shane, urine and blood?
i.e.
Floyd:
Blood:
Urine:
....

 

We've been through this before. Random means Random to the boxers. The boxers have no idea when the knock on the door is coming. That is what random means.
This dose not mean that USDA dose not have a schudule but that schudule is unknown to the boxers and their camps. Neither boxer Mosley or Mayweather was aware that testing would stop 18 days before the match. For all they new when they took their last tests. Which they did not know was their last tests. Another test or more would happen.
What is so hard to understand about that? People who bring this up are likely the same people who claim that Pacquiao would be the only one subjected to the tests. When both boxers would be subjected to the same random tests. Once again what is so hard to understand about this?

 

Well if they stopped testing 18 days prior to the fight then 7 days cut-off is more than reasonable.

 

If USADA was really out there to make a point, they shouldn't have stopped, they should have test the fighters randomly up until the day of the fight. I wonder if they'll do the same in case PBF-Pac fight is made, I see no reason why they should not.

 

Basically, any testing has to have a sampling method.

It determines when to test, who to tests, and how to tests. Take the olympics for instance. There are probaly 12,000 athletes during the last olympics but only 500 were tested for EPO.

The question is who is to be tested, when is the testing done among the more than 10,000 athletes considering that there are more athletes than the actual test kits available.

It is not definitely a whim or "let's walk to the olympic village and whoever we meet, we would do the tests". There is a method to the sampling method and definitely it is random, which simply means that the probability of one person having the tests from another person is almost equal.

In the case of a fight where there are only 2 combatants, the sampling method is determined by several factors, like drug detection windows, etc. otherwise, when it is commonly perceived "random" like "I think we need to do the tests today because it is not raining", the probability of doing consecutive tests or tests done very near each other exist and makes the test useless.

Random in "random" only becomes random because the fighters do not know exactly when the testers will be testing them but on the part of the tester, the process is already laid out as to not favor one fighter over the other, as well as the timetable for doing the tests.

BTW, random sampling could be applied to a single subject or million of subjects. And whgen it comes to drug testing among athletes, the "random" there pertains to sampling methodology. There are several books on the subject, just look it up.

 

well then why didnt they test them once every week? or once every day? just because there where no tests 18 days prior to the fight doesnt mean ****!!! Do you think Floyd and shane knew they weren't gonna get tested in that period of time is that what your saying? I dont even know where your going with this but it must have taken you quite a while to think this one up!! Your just fishing for **** arent you? why dont you go ask them instead of posting this BULL**** on ESB? :deal

 

I am still wanting to know why this thread has 10 odd pages talking about something that didn't happen. Shane was tested much closer to the fight than 18 days.. Kind of makes the whole argument hypothetical and void.