Why did Vitaly duck a Byrd rematch?

they were when they were LHs.

Why, do you NOT call LH Olympic champ Ali and Evander exceptional?

Byrd had exceptional skills at mw whch he carried to LH and HW. or do you think theses skills magically appeared from nowhere when he put pounds on?

 

So you would consider them former LHs?

 

they fought at LH.
there is no need for me to form an opinion about it.

do you think evander had no exceptional skills when a LHW, but then he ate a huge magic pie that blessed with a few extra pounds and amazing skills?

 

Oh, so now you consider a Byrd a HW.

"byrd was an exceptional middleweight though, he was able to beat LHs and some of the weaker HWs and super HWs."

That's good as this sentence seems to imply you believe a 160 lb man was beating HWs.

 

Just as Byrd fought at MW as an amateur, but was no longer a MW when he turned pro. So calling him "an exceptoinal middlweight" when refering to his professional achievements at HW is a fallacy, correct?

 

you are reading this all wrong. I am referring to his exceptional skills, in spite of starting at MW, not in reference to him being that weight.

And he had these skills or was on that learning curve, whichever weight he fought at.


NOW, if the fact bothers you that SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT Vitali was the first champion in history to quit against a relatively tiny opponent, just say so.

 

-I didn't read it wrong, you wrote it wrong.

-I don't understand the last bit there, is it a question or what? Why is NOW in caps? Is this in code?

 

so you think I am claiming that Byrd is an exceptional MW completely exclusive of his abilities at LHW and HW?

This is exactly how you are reading it.

Now, explain why you are bothered that Vitali got beat by a guy who was a former MW and had exceptional skills?

 

"byrd was an exceptional middleweight though, he was able to beat LHs and some of the weaker HWs and super HWs"

-I don't know, are you? I can only read what you write.

-Bothered is a strong word. I would say I disagree with your wording. I think Byrd earned the title "HW contender", and if anything should be called a former LHW. Going back to guys amateur records opens up all kind of weird doors, you know Bowe fought at LHW as an amateur for instance. Moorer was a LMW even!

 

Joe Louis nearly got beat by a former lightweight whom he outweighed by over 30lbs. Rofl.

 

I was originally making the point that though byrd was indeed a former MW who beat Vits, there were exceptions to this fact.

What exceptions do you think I mean so far? here are two of mine.
- had great skills honed to target and best the bigger men
- had a large frame that allowed him to go up to HW from MW fairly well

 

I can do one better. What would be an Olympic Super Heavy if such a thing existed at the time, Harry Willis got knocked out by former professional LW Lanford. Lanford was a HW at the time but Willis still enjoyed I believe 30+ lb advantage and 6 inches in height.

 

he won.

 

Haha.

Marvin Hagler went life and death with a former bantamweight.

 

Yes he did. Against a former lightweight who rocked him down to his boots and was a couple of rounds from winning. Rofl.

Conn would've won had he not got silly, and what round did Louis tear is rotator cuff in again? Rofl