Why did Wilder fail to become a superstar like AJ or AJ level money, PPVs and gate attendances?

Ok now I understand why he rejected the DAZN deal. It was for his daughter.

 

A Filipino drew huge numbers in the US. Wilder not drawing flies is uncommon. Something rubs people the wrong way.

 

Being religious says nothing about one's character.

 

In the welterweight division, which is my point if you bothered to read.

Show me the last heavyweight that drew huge numbers in the States?

 

Wlad was an Eastern European champion that dominated the division for a while. Probably the least popular ethnicity you can be in the US. He and his brother ruled and no one else rose to any degree of relevance. Also there was Wlad's huggy style.

 

He ruled the division with an iron fist along with Vitali. No one would dispute that.

He was not a big star in the U.S by any stretch of the imagination which is why nearly all of his fights were hosted in Germany until the latter end of his career when he made attempt to break the market with his fight against Jennings.

The last time before that, it was against ibragimov and no one in the states warmed to him.

 

because hes thick.

 

heavyweight div is dominated by euros which is why us media pays less attention to it
same way we just went through a golden era of mens tennis yet the entire focus as far as US media is centered around womens tennis because there was an american star to root for
when AJ turned pro british boxing was nowhere near what it is now, so the narrative that boxing is our second biggest sport & it has aways been bigger here is a nonesense, fury was barey scraping 500k ppv vs Wlad while Joshua was doing those kind of numbers for domestic level fights vs whyte
froch groves 2 and AJ helped reinvigorate boxing in the UK, being entertaining actually stepping up and taking big fights leads to renewed intrest in the sport, not rocket science isit?

 

Opposition. Joshua fought guys with name value.

When Wilder fought Stiverne and Ortiz, there was a ton of hype. Stiverne I was the first time Wilder headlined a card(a big one at least) and it was one of SHO's biggest hits that year. Wilder has constantly drawn big ratings for SHO. He to this day is their biggest draw or regular SHO.

It irritates when people act dumbfounded as to why Wilder isn't a bigger draw. He has actually done rather well for himself considering the bum cruise he was on for a long time. Wilder's profile went through the roof after Ortiz.

* And also! His trash talk isn't funny nor charismatic. It's just vulgar and in your face. Fury talks mad **** but he has a lot flare to it. Look at the **** he constantly does during press conferences and weigh-ins. It's a ton of humor interlaced with trash talk.

Broner is a good example of someone talking their way up the money ladder. But he did it through comedy and flamboyancy.

And MMA has had an "issue" with everyone suddenly trying to talk trash. *cough*blamemcgregor*cough*.
But rarely any of them do it in a fun way. That's why it doesn't have the effect you'd think it has.

Wilder has said some of the most offensive **** you can say(body on his record? wtf?) but a witty remark always trumps a vulgar comment.

* Fury made headlines just by saying "dosser"
If you google the word, the first link is urban dictionary:

 

I guess you hated these moments. Probably not around to remember this kind of talk, was you casual?

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Yes that is what I said. A dominant Eastern European heavyweight rubbed people the wrong way. Of course he wasn't like here. That is why there was no popular heavyweights in the US. GGG wasn't that big without Canelo either. And his style is much more pleasing to the eye of casuals than the Klitschkos'.

Manny being a welter means nothing. He would have been just as popular if he had the same career at heavy. Same with Floyd. Heavyweight has always been the most popular division.

I'm not sure why Wilder is not more popular. He gets a lot of air time on shows and people here are usually enamored with the classless, scumbag type. He fits that to a T. Maybe even the casual fans are put off by the wild swinging.

 

This. This is why, being in tough fights with Eric Molina isn't exactly superstar stuff

 

You do realize it's fashionable to hate on Wilder. to the point it's reached pathological. Iinevitably sheep will flock like sheep to follow and repeat what is said by the rest.

Manny wouldn't have been popular,at heavyweight in the U.S , neither has the heavyweight division always been the most popular, hence why you can't name the last popular heavyweight since Lewis/Tyson era.

Wlad ticked all the right boxes, educated, smart, handsome and ko artist. The total package, yet still failed to make his mark stateside.

If it was indeed always popular, him and his brother and David Haye would have been household names in the U.S when their rivalry was at it's peak.

 

I just told you why that was the case. Stop repeating that. Ok, MOST of the time HW is more popular. Happy? What's this obscure reason for welterweight being more popular than heavy now? Why the would Manny not have been popular at heavyweight if he was knocking out people and engaging in exciting fights exactly like he did at lower divisions?

The reason is simply the particular fighters at heavyweight are liked less than the fighters at lower divisions. Nothing more.

 

Like I said, there was bigger names which meant bigger rivalries to capture the imagination of the American public.

Stand alone, a fighter isn't going to be a household name in America.

Manny would have been just as popular as Klitshcko or Wilder today, unless there were other equally competitive hw's with big personalities to serve as dance partners to build a rivalry around.

It's that simple really.