Why did Wilder fail to become a superstar like AJ or AJ level money, PPVs and gate attendances?

Wilder is only now after 40 plus professional fights starting to make a mark. Before that he didn't do anything really worth talking about.


They missed a trick when he won the WBC title, Finkel called him a "Novice", Wilder had 33 fights at that point, and they dismissed any talk of a unification with Klitschko.

If you're calling a 33 fight WBC Champion a "Novice" you're giving Boxing fans, TV companies, basically everybody a reason not to believe you are a "star".

You are basically saying "Wilder isn't good enough to beat the real world champion" so therefore you are saying he isn't the best, he is second rate, he isn't the real deal and once people get that mental image of you then it takes more than Szpilka and Molina to change their minds.

It's starting to happen now he is fighting the likes of Ortiz and especially Fury but the Fury fight wasn't great for him, he was clearly beaten and got lucky.

But going back, If they fought Klitschko, Wilder may well have lost, but who knows, Fury went over there and embarrassed Wladimir, AJ not that long later also beat Klitschko.

If Wilder had landed that huge right hand on Klitschko and ended that decade long reign, unified the titles, he would have been a superstar back then.

They didn't want to take the gamble, risk or maybe they just didn't believe he would win and it's taken years to get Wilder to finally start fighting top 10 opponents.

 

Sorry but our whole nation and culture in the UK has been built largely around free speech and protest.Right from the Suffragettes, to the miners strikes, the Poll tax riots, race riots throughout the 1980's to the anti war demonstrations against the 2003 Iraq war. It even happened only last week with the protesting against Trumps state visit.

All people do in the UK IS SPEAK THEIR MIND. What about Brexit and the rise of anti establishment and anti capitalist rhetoric. The problem with Fury and a lot of people in the UK is the fact that he's a Pikey. He belongs to a group of people that have caused a lot of derision and polarisation against their way of life and how they make their living. It's got next to **** all about what he says and more to do with who's saying it.

I'm gonna **** a lot of people off with the next comment but, when Travellers/ Gypsies arrive in a community, the crime statistics go through the roof and local residents don't take kindly to the mess they tend to leave behind. Contoversial, for sure but generally just a fact in my experience.

 

Well the Ashes/Wimbledon/Football/Rugby gets more fan views on a yearly basis so yes...

 

If the fight is remotely close and by close I mean 2 rounds or more for wilder wilder will get the gift, us media will sweep the controversy under the carpet, wilder will be recognised as the best of his era by fanboys and media alike and we will have to admit wilders team did a great job getting a pretender whos career should've been ended by wlad this far

 

Exactly, Wilder took zero risks and fought nobodies so nobody took him seriously.
In fact he was relative unknown in the eyes of the main sports media in the US until KO'ing fat hippo Stiverne coupled with name dropping AJ non stop even-though he knew his opponent was Ortiz next.

It's only during his Ortiz and Fury fights ESPN and other national media have started paying attention to him but when he opened his mouth it was either about racism/oppression or wanting a body on his record. Very unappealing.

Wilder doesn't know how to sell himself, one thing Floyd was and still is VERY good at.

 

No mate thats not true

Look at the back pages of UK Newspapers. Boxing rarely gets mentioned, it usually gets either no coverage or a very tiny section compared to loads of other sports.

The only exception is when Joshua and Fury are fighting. PPV Heavyweight events involving those two are big no doubt, but it's just like Mayweather and Alvarez fights are huge in the USA.

Overall boxing is a niche sport in the UK. Football, Rugby, Rugby Union, Cricket, Tennis, Formula One, Golf, Horse Racing, Athletics, Snooker, Darts are all more popular in the UK than boxing.

 

READ THAT, WHY WOULD KLITSCHKO MAKE ANY SORT OF OFFER IF BEFORE YOU DO YOU GET THIS.... THERE IS THE BASIS...


Finkel, who manages Wilder with Al Haymon and Jay Deas, also works closely with Klitschko.

He says there is no need to rush Wilder into big fights against the best of the division; that despite a world title he still needs time to grow and groom his skills.

“Look, (Wilder) is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight, they'll be a time for unification, they'll be a time for all those things, he could go and Povetkin (the No. 2 contender) in Russia and make $10 million,” Finkel said to the Tuscaloosa News. “It's not the right thing yet. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama. Let him develop just like any other athlete. They don't take someone who is a great college prospect and throw him right in. And this kid is a great prospect.”

 

Does this make these Americans casuals?

 

I am going to sit here, and munch on some popcorn as I watch all the pathetic excuses roll in as to why Wilder failed to break America.

America is there for the taking, the avg USA guy, LOVES a good KO, blood, guts and Glory. It's just the american way, to have a a machoistic, crude physical contest.

It's evident in all there movies, culture, sports, WWE and even the UFC has made their mark and they started way back in the mid 90s.

Don't tell me Wilder didn't have the best chance to conquer USA with his performance in the ring.

Why did he fail? Crappy marketing team. Call up Eddie Hearn.

 

Might still happen especially if Joshua loses the rematch against Ruiz. Hearn could well move on to Wilder or Fury.

 

After ten years and 42 fights lol? Better late than never I suppose. I retract my previous comment about a crappy marketing team being the sole reason... Wilder himself is accountable too.

AJ puts himself out there, he makes time for the fans, he reaches out, Wilder ain't about that life. AJ built a brand, a solid one.

 

boxing isn’t even close to being number 2. What happens in the UK is you get a popular boxer such as Bruno, Joshua, Hatton, McGuigan, Eubank, Benn etc. These types of characters attract the casuals and the general Joe Bloggs on the street would not have a clue who most other UK boxers are.

 

Bumszquadd!

In one word.

Fight bums your whole career, get no respect.

People are starting to take note now that he's upped his choice of opponent. It might not be too late.