Why didnt Calzaghe renew his visa when Tarver, Pavlik came onto the scene?

basically bailey now you are trying to say sorry, and you want to retract your statement that you made earlier here:-

Here is you trying to retract your statement:-

No worries son, as I have fathered you on ESB for many a time, I am a forgiving individual and understand everyone makes mistakes. You finally starting to accept the fact:-

Froch wanted a Calzaghe fight

You seem to have followed the 2006 British SMW scene, but you dont have the picture bang on. Here is the true story behind the event you are discussing.

Also, you have just admitted yourself atsch that Froch wanted a Joe Calzaghe fight

Joe Calzaghe dismissed Carl Froch for years, he never considered Froch worthy of a fight but Calzaghe did consider the following worthy opponents:-

Rick Thornberry
Tocker Pudwill
Brancko Sobot
Mario Veit


Ok one more, Evans Ashira

But Calzaghe never considered Froch worthy title defense.

"Froch will have to work like I have done to establish myself on the world scene," - Joe Calzaghe

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3698536.stm

As Froch realised Calzaghe is being too much of a *****, Froch said he probably would need a World Title to get recognition. Here is what Froch said:

"I know what to do to beat Calzaghe,.......I don't think Calzaghe will fight me unless I put a meaningful title on the line but if I get one of the major belts he could not swerve me. - Carl Froch

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/5023478.stm

Froch basically said: he thinks Calzaghe wont fight him unless he has a meaningful title. Froch then tried to work himself towards not a title, but towards a Calzaghe fight.

The reason Froch wanted a title was so he could fight Calzaghe. That was a good lesson there, I hopefully refreshed your memory of the 2006 British SMW scene as gargling on Calzaghe's nuts has made you forget alot of it.

 

I show you research, and you are talking about The Sun website links being in working order. Stick to the topic son, dont try diverting the topic.

Now you have started to retract your statements.

You first claimed, Froch didnt want to fight Joe Calzaghe when he was active.

But now after being schooled quite seriously hard, you have changed your statement to this:-

Time for another lesson, I have already schooled you on the British SMW scene of 2006, now its time to go into the British SMW/LHW scene just before Calzaghe retired.

Just after Calzaghe beat Roy Jones Jr, Froch's team had this to do. This is from December 2008 so this was "just before" Calzaghe retired.

Hennessy has offered Calzaghe, 36, a reported £5m to fight Froch if he gets past Canadian fighter Pascal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7764445.stm

Joe Calzaghe turned down Carl Froch for a hefty high £5million to instead sniff coke and dance on BBC Tv...........just before he retired.

:good

 

Once again I havent read the post but browsed a bit and noticed the names you quoted yet still it is further proof of a duck on your part from previous answers as I have explained to you before that

Thornberry yes was a showcase gimme, where Collins was supposed to be on the same bill to promote a future fight only for Collins to pull out
Pudwill was a sub
Sobot was a sub
Still you also dont note that Froch wasnt around at that time and the world rated SMWs that were in Reid, Woodhall, Eubank, Starie who were all world rated were fought. Calzaghe was due to fight Magee before Veits team scrapped it and Francis was injured for a long period and passed by.
Mario Veit -
The win Calzaghe had over Veit was a very good victory.
The first time Calzaghe beat Veit, Veit was 30-0 and hadnt beaten anyone of real note, hence he was blown away in a round by Calzaghe.
When Calzaghe beat Veit a 2nd time Veit was an accomplished world rated 45-1 int world champ who had some solid victories behind him, and was top 10 rated.
Veit had beaten undefeated Dziarra who wasnt a great fighter but did go on to beat L Mock and undefeated M Oral who would go on to challenge MW champs A Abraham and S Sylvester recently.
Veit had also beaten beaten undefeated Guerrero for the European union title.
Veit beat future title challenger Salem and Mock.
Veit also beat world rated C Brewer with an educated destructive 9th round KO.
A note on Veit. He only ever lost to world champs or fighters who became world champs and has victories over Mock, Salem, Perdermo (a future Kessler challenger), Brewer when Brewer was world rated and Veit beat undefeated Braehmer who became WBO LHW champ
A good Calzaghe victory over a mandatory world class SMW
Also a great away victory for Calzaghe in Germany


A far more accomplished SMW than Dirrell, Taylor, Abraham, Johnson etc :smooch

 

op This is getting Good !

 

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atsch None of bailey's post above is on the topic of

Joe Calzaghe vs Carl Froch.

But rather its on the topic of kissing Calzaghe's ass. We are not here for this, discuss Calzaghe vs Froch son. :smoke

 

A sure sign you are wilting and struggling is when you start writing in bold as if to shout a point over someone and the excessive smileys. One or two where neccesary I can see, but when you get carried away with them, I know is a sure sign of you being owned. Later we can go down the usual road of you highlighting and altering posts.
Rather than try and answer and counter, you duck doing that and just write lies like I called Veit a HOFer.
Yep a sure sign.
Now you are trying to edge away from the link you have admitted reading that you claim you couldnt read before .
You say my post is not on topic, yet YOU brought up those names . Further selfpwnage on your part when I owned you on the names you brought up.

 

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There was a time when any criticism of Joe Calzaghe would have resulted in the wrath of ESB veteran Calzaghe ass kisser/P4P number 1 fanboy bailey. However those days are long gone as ESB single punchline thrower tliang, was able to shut bailey up:-

Calls are being made for bailey to retire, as defeats from ESB upcoming bucks in tliang are starting to get the better of him.

 

I school you on Froch vs Calzaghe, and you want to discuss the structure and the font of my posts:

And you want to talk about smilies? :roflatsch

Here is one of your previous posts, I took out the words to show you why I am laughing:-

By the way, what you got to say about:-

1. Froch wanting to fight Joe Calzaghe.

2. Joe Calzaghe openly refusing a hefty high £5 million

3. Calzaghe openly refusing Froch

4. Froch claiming Calzaghe didnt want it

5. and you contradicting boxing.

 

Dude nobodies buying ur Veit Herod bull****.

 

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_5KiSHUCRU[/ame]

Legends, veterans and the novices of ESB may be wondering, why such praiseworthy video of Joe Calzaghe is being shown at this time. Well:-

1. To give bailey courage and incitement to find the courage within himself to grow a pair and defend Calzaghe from criticism without any ducks.

2. And to compare a Calzaghe opponent to Carl Froch.

3. To laugh at the statement that Froch wasnt a worthy opponent of Calzaghe.

 

Salutations to one of ESBs legendary debaters, no body has forgotten the pwnage Imperial gave to Joe.Boxer on the issue of Roy Jones Jr vs Dariusz MichaelJackson, and indeed it is great company to have you on this thread.

 

Its hard to take anything you say too seriously now you are making up lies abot the smileys, saying originally posted by me. The road I said you would go down when struggling
You will have to highlight an old post of mine and add a few smileys
I could do a BS thing like

originally posted by Soulja, but that wouldnt be true.
Sure sign of you wilting

Same as before, where I gave the Benn/Jones example because as said

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Where have you seen Calzaghe openly refusing that? You have a word of someone else who I doubt at that time could have generated that money. What is Frochs purses and his opponents purses at this time and then go back to when he was a British champ

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Calzaghe wanted to fight M Kessler the unified champ, Hopkins and Jones rather than a British champ.
Not sure what you find in that and all of those fights are bigger earners than Froch then and possibly now even

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This comment from you who called Jones the lineal champ and now changed that, you who said about calling out bigger fighters and now trying to claim Froch the British champ was a star studded attraction. Yeah thats a good one

 

Now kissing Imperials arse when on that post you agreed with Imperial that Jones was lineal champ and now on this post you said Jones wasnt Lineal champ.
Further self pwnage. You are a shot poster now kid

 

Imperial wont interfere dont worry. I know how much you fear him as he was the Calzaghe fan boy clubs nemesis at one point and him giving his take would only leave you in suicidal thinking.

 

Here is your post:-

Benn wanted a Jones fight. That is irrefutable and has nothing to do with Calzaghe vs Froch.

Looks like you got Frank Warrren to fight your battle

So far Froch has shown to be a better world champ as he is taking on all comers. He is willing to leave his backyard and go into enemy territory on the regular basis.

Froch is a proven elite SMW, I dont know what Frank is on.

Frank says this a few days before Froch calls Calzaghe out live on TV atsch

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFhan1S7vv0[/ame]

"He means nothing to America, he doesn't mean anything. He wants a pay day and I'm not going to give him one as I don't like the guy."

Words of Calzaghe not mine, you can read more here. Calzaghe didnt want Froch.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7779542.stm

You take Frank Warrrens words but not Mick hennessy. If we ignore promoters and see what the fighters said. Calzaghe said he doesnt want to give Froch a payday, Froch says he offered Calzaghe £5 million.

Here is one of the links you posted earlier, but you dont use any quotes from it because it refutes your own agenda

"Joe Calzaghe vacated the WBC title rather than fight me. He's been offered good money - he's been offered £5 million and the fight is genuine.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/extra/441991-froch-says-no-go-to-joe-calzaghe

Here is Froch a few days after that quote:-

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFhan1S7vv0[/ame]

Look at you admitting now Calzaghe didnt want to fight Froch.

So Calzaghe didnt want to fight Froch, you finally admit.

Froch a few hours later has this to say:-

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFhan1S7vv0[/ame]

Was Joe Calzaghe the lineal champ at LHW? answer that son, :smoke