Why didn't Erik fight NAZ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by gr8fight, Dec 15, 2007.


  1. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yea it would be a great fight. I think Morales wouldnt stand toe to toe all fight, similar to what he did against pacman. Morales knew pacman was a hard puncher so he boxed and brawled in spots and I think he would do the same against Naz.
     
  2. Quik

    Quik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Morales boxes Naz, he wins and if he goes to war, it becomes 50/50
     
  3. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Ill say it again..1 great fighter and 1 very good one ..Kelly he was my neighbor in Flushing..Ill say it again lovable guy...Not one Newspaper in NY ..Newsday, Post gave him a shot...he was more of a local fighter..Buddy McGirt he wasnt

    Also if youre that great have a close fight with MAB!!...he Clearly lost!!..

    I will tell you what a great fighter is..
    Someone who fights gloriously against another titan..not someone who loses wide...

    There can only be one MAN in that ring, one has to lose unfortunately..that is a given

    but if you had followed boxing long enough..the greats gains respect even when they lose.

    Frazier to Ali, Hearns to Ray and hagler, Erik to MAB, Jackson to McCallum, Arguello to Pryor
     
  4. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you need to read the part where he said naz fought many good fighter's and at no point have i seen the word great mentioned. Styles make fights and if anyone comes head on at naz they are in trouble that is a fact, why the hell would mab change his whole style if he was confident about standing and banging with naz (who by this point was rich and lazy).:huh
     
  5. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kelly was a local fighter???:rofl....oh my god...the stereotype of pac fans is true.

    He lost to an atg after four years of dominance as champion at featherweight. I guess Tszyu is nothing b/c he lost clearly to Hatton, or Hearns was nothing b/c he lost clearly to Leonard, or Duran was nothing b/c he clearly lost to Hagler....awesome logic. Im glad boxing is big in the phillipines now, so we can get great "knowledgeable" fans like yourself. Your 5 years of boxing knowledge is impeccable.

    awesome...naz is nothing b/.c he lost 116-112 to an atg...what a hell of a boxing expert you are.
     
  6. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Nowadays as you know..the word Good in boxing is relative...every decent fighter has fought someone good..mad respect for all of them.

    Unfortunately..you will be judged in this sport as who have have you fought. Your level of competition..because as you have seen you can look great against good but totally different against great. (see Frazier vs Foster)
    In this case theres a big hole in Naz as a pro, how bout if he fought Erik, heres the answer partly

    The problem with the NAZ riddle is that everyone thinks that Barrera was this master boxer. Barrera started out and was well known as a brawler.. He was never a master boxer, he slowly evolved into it. At the time Mab was still considered a banger.

    The point is MAB made very little adjustment to his game to defeat Naz..It wasnt hard... It was easy..yes an easy fight

    Morales can certainly do the same
     
  7. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry but you have failed to read what anyone was written and just come up with something different, it's like adding 2 and 2 and getting 5, everyone has said if morales boxes naz he wins easy, but if he trades with him he might lose there is nothing silly about that. Mab knew he would be in for a very hard night and most likely a loss if he stood and traded with naz thats why he changed his style and boxed him.
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    you know **** about boxing! Kelly was not that popular!! what the **** are you talking about ?? You from NYC and you knwo this ****.???. Because Kelley was not that popular...he was a good interview..when?? 2 days before the Hamed fight thats his airtime

    Whos popular at the time? McGirt, Bowe, Tyson..those are NYC fighters that people know and root for..Kelley are you fcking kidding!!!...I already said he was a very good fighter, Naz even better than him..but Naz aint great..Thats all..stop the insults because thats the sign of me getting under your skin

    and you kknow Tzyu was shot when he fough Hatton right, you comparing Nas to Duran...you better stop!
     
  9. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Fair enough
     
  10. gr8fight

    gr8fight Active Member Full Member

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    MAB and EM aren't so similar. Look at the pacquiao fights, are they similar??? They are very different
     
  11. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Ohh my God... Erik fought that way against PAC because the blueprint was laid out by JMM a year earlier...Have you seen the Erik vs MAB fights??? You see a difference.

    Heres their difference...They started out with the same style and MAB bacame more of a boxer later in his career as supposed to Erik who kept on mixing it up...Thats their difference
     
  12. gr8fight

    gr8fight Active Member Full Member

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    How can you say MAB's right is as good as EM's!!!! Or MAB using the different angles EM used. They are both boxer brawlers but not similar
     
  13. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    look I can find big difference with similar fighters if I want too..

    Ill put it this way ..when they fight one another..people will not be taking about styles making that fight
     
  14. gr8fight

    gr8fight Active Member Full Member

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    End of the day Erik is not a stupid fighter so I pick him to win.

    Erik and Mab a cut above Naz all around. If you combine them you may get chavez
     
  15. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    either one is not that far off from Chavez IMHO..and Chavez aint that far off from Duran..only diff is Durans defense was superb