why didnt frazier punch ali out in press conference's

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  1. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    why didnt frazier punch ali out in press conference's
    there was an interesting thread about how an ali vs tyson press conference would go....

    i was one of the people who said that ali took advantage of the fact that fighters in that time were more gentlemen like and did not start fights at press conferences...


    so he would talk non stop **** while these guys were looking angry at him for 30 mins.

    basically i said that if he did this with tyson or bowe,
    he would get punched in the face preety fast, and since ali did not strike as a brawling type, this would send him a nice message....

    something like this

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    i think if frazier had taken ali's head off with a left hook while being called a gorilla.....maybe this would have saved a lot of personal headaches.....


    it's a good way to shut someone up who tormenting you.....


    basically you cant say too much when your handlers are picking you up from the floor and espically if you lost some teeth or got a broke jaw....


    basically it is not the nicest thing to do but why just stand there let some guy abuse you. espcially since frazier helped out ali when he was in need etc


    i know they had their little wrestling thing on the floor but this is different
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  2. TommyV

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    Because he's a greater professional than Bowe.

    If Frazier did that, Ali would of known he'd got to him. And it's even easier to stand-up to a guy who's lashing out because you know you've got the beating of him.

    But what do you do when you've got a guy like Frazier, you talk all this horrible **** about him and he just smiles and politely tells you he's going to beat your arse inside the ropes. How do you respond and try and intimidate a guy like that?
     
  3. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali actually squared up to Frazier on a chat show & they had to be seperated. But Frazier had more class than to throw cheap shots at people, even if they were badmouthing him.
     
  4. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    ahh well if someone is talking **** in your face, his mouth has started the fight so its not really a cheap.....


    he is in your face and is talking ****, one guy punches the other in the face...
    that's how fights go, this is not a movie....




    having grown up in a bad area and i worked as a bouncer for a long time....this is just how things go....

    a cheap shot is when you punch a guy when he does not see it, not 2 guys in each faces....then it's just a matter of time until one hits the other.....


    you guys talk about frazier being a bigger professonal then bowe....that's true
    but because of his professonalism he let some guy verbally **** him...

    a person should be professonal and respectful when the other is professonal and respectful......not to a guy who disresepcting you in every possible way....
    uncle tom, a gorilla etc



    also about "ohh if i lash out then he must gotten to me"
    i dont you would care to much if got to him if you have a broken jaw hahahaha

    which a frazier hook would no doubts do
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Active Member Full Member

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    Its not in the street though there promoting a boxing match
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Because in those days a nicca would be banned from the sport and not have a livelyhood. What was the story behind Bowe-Donald?
     
  7. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    well promoting a match does not mean sounding like a kkk member,
    if it's not street then there are limits, you cross those limits then you turn into a street thing....

    a person should not have to carry trauma for 35 years hahhaa


    basically i think ali took advantage of the times where he could get away with using his big mouth non stop....

    to be honest i think in the last 20 years, if he did the same, he would get cracked quite a few times
     
  8. KTFO

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    Because press conferences were different that era.
     
  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Because Frazier was a holdover from an older and more decent generation of fighters who didn't act lke out of control, wild ass thugs at press conferences and the like..George Foreman, also was of the same ilk as Frazier, for all his implied menace. These guys (Frazier, typically) had too much class and exhibited themselves with more dignity than meatballs like Bowe, Tyson, Zab Judah...and I always liked Lennox Lewis for the cool restraint he exhibited as well, especially when dealing with guys like the aforementioned Bowe, Tyson and that jerk "Has-been Rahman"...I don't know, the thuggish types sure attract their fan-base these days, but I'm sick of them, and I like the "old-school" better. Frazier never belted Ali except in the ring.and that's the only place where it's proper.
     
  10. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It reminds me of the meetings Pryor and Arguello had before bouts in the ring, Pryor would be loud and in his face, menacing and meaning it, but Alex was such a gentleman, shaking his hand and saying that Pryor was a great champion. You could see how confused Pryor was by this genuine class gentleman.
     
  11. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    Frazier obviously had more class than Ali. Would have loved to seen him KO Ali like that though, shut him the **** up.

    Respect to Donald for taking 2 flush bare-fisted shots from Bowe.
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Because he wasnt getting paid to?
     
  13. Caponecartels

    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    A perfect post.
    Pacquiao is a throwback in this way.
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thank you, and yes...Pac is a true class act.
     
  15. Flea Man

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    The General awaits:hi:

    Anyway, Ali had as good a chin as Larry Donald, and puncher or not, he was a super fast head hunter, and ungloved would follow suit. I think it would be in nobodies interests to get into a brawl with Ali.