Why didn't joe frazier fight more of the other big name 1970s heavyweights?

Frazier paid his dues in the 1967-1971 period that he entirely cleaned out. Quarry, Bonavena, Ellis, Ali. Joe was a 1960s fighter fighting outside of his era basically chasing Ali for super fights in the 1970s. Nobody he did not fight in the 1970s were as good as guys he already beat. SHavers? Lyle? They both lost to Quarry.

 

Norton was a former sparring partner and Frazier used to beat him up but they were friends

Lyle lost badly to Quarry and IMO Frazier beats him

Young was not somebody someone fought unless they had to but a prime Frazier beats him

Frazier's name was so big after beating Ali that he could pick his spots

 

Vince has the history 100%. Thread needs to go no further.

 

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Dundee was Ellis's manager ,he was only Ali's trainer,spot the difference?

 

And he sure did!

 

1970
Liston was no8 ,Mac Foster no5.

Frazier fought Jimmy Ellis and Bob Foster.
1971
Mac Foster no5
Frazier fought Muhammad Ali.

1972
Lyle no4
Frazier fought Tery Daniels and Ron Stander.


1973
Lyle no4, Shavers no6 .

Frazier fought George Foreman & Joe Bugner.


1974

Lyle no3, Frazier no 2
Frazier fought Ali and Jerry Quarry.




1975
Lyle no5, Shavers no6, Frazier no 3.
By the end of1975 Lyle had been rated in the top 5 for 4 consecutive years .




In 1968
Liston was no5,Frazier no1.
Frazier fought Buster Mathis ,Manuel Ramos
,Oscar Bonavena.

1969
Foster was no5, Liston no6 ,Frazier no1.

Frazier fought,Dave Zyglewicz & Jerry Quarry.
These fights, and the timing of them will possibly be interpreted differently by each individual.

 

Wasn't there some sort of 6 man tournament to decide who would be champion when Ali was stripped and Frazier refused to enter, saying he would fight the winner, so they had to bring in some sub par sub to make the 6 up?

 

Foxy, just Google this .. if you are truly interested all of this info is a few keyboard strokes away ..

 

Liston was blackballed after losing to Ali in Maine. No major contender fought him from that time on. You cannot infer Frazier ducked Liston based on this.

 

No need. Frazier had his first WORLD title shot against Ellis in 1970, 3 years after Ali was stripped of the same title.

As far as I'm concerned New York world titles are as much use as toilet paper, then again perhaps toilet paper is more useful.

 

Anyone stated he did?
You seem a trifle premature and over- anxious here.:think