why didn't mayweather ever unify any titles???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by dabox, Jul 7, 2008.


  1. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    hey i had an interesting question,

    now i am not a mayweather hater or lover, i can see his great boxing skills but the question i have is simple.

    every weight class, he had a title, people assumed he was the best guy, here is my problem, there are 3-4 champions in every class.

    no i know that he usually looked better then the other fighters but the fact still remains he NEVER unified any weightclass and really prove himself the best.

    people knew hopkins was better then william and keith holmes but he still fought them and proved that was the real champion not them.
    joe calazage,roy jones,de la hoya etc etc

    were all in the same postion as mayweather, that being the guy that people assumed was the best, but there is a diffrence....they unfied weightclasses and proved to be the best.
    floyd usually fought one top guy in each weightclass and people assumed that he was the best...
    to be the best you have to beat all the best, not one guy.

    at 130, fights with casamayor and freitas never happened,
    at 135 he again did not unify
    140 fights with cotto or that time hatton did not happen
    at 147 well the list is long...very long

    now people will that he often beat the linear champ, well
    this is not 1924 when guys could stop for 3 years and still be champs because no one beat them lol

    today's reality is that there are 3-4 champions, and to be undisputed champ you gotta beat the other guys,or atleast 1 or 2 of them.

    you can't be the best just because you look more talented then others.
     
  2. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he was chasing big names such as kostya, shane, hatton, cotto and oscar. only hatton and oscar agreed to fight.
     
  3. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In boxing there is always "that" guy that he was suppose to fight but really most he is no different from other top p4ps. Look at joe's resume. Look at Hatton, Cotto, Shane and etc etc. Most doesn't even hold a candle to what floyd did.
     
  4. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oscar and Pac can match floyd's resume and pac is current number 1 while oscar could have if he wins some of those matches.
     
  5. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The brutal reality of boxing is that. Sometimes when you beat a great fighter (title holder), nobody knows or give a **** but when you beat a Gatti on HBO main event then everyone knows who you are. It is not the fighters' fault it is the game. As a pro fighting for a sport which the general public will easily write you off of your accomplishments from a defeat. Why unify for chump change? I wouldn't.
     
  6. drama

    drama Active Member Full Member

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    Floyd has one of the best resumes in boxing! I think the way boxing is now there are too many divisions and politics; Floyd set himself a target and attained it.
     
  7. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    the thing is that, it is not about him fighting that one guy...

    it's about the fact that he never won more then 1 title in any weightclass he fought at.
    yet people assume he was the real champ at all those weightclasses, kinda odd, don't people see a pattern here.

    fight one guy with a big name,(who is often getting older), not fight any other top guys then move to the next weight class and do the same thing.
     
  8. The Thruth!!!!!

    The Thruth!!!!! Active Member Full Member

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    The answer to this post is simple. Floyd was perhaps the most carefully managed champion I've ever seen. He is a coward and has been open for quite some time about his preference in taking the low risk/high reward fights. Floyd's resume is a total farce. He was a fantastic 130-135 pounder but once he moved to 147, he consistently took the road of least resistance in obtaining his titles at junior welter/welter/junior middleweight.

    1) He beat Gatti for the WBC junior middleweight belt. Nuff said.
    2) He beat Judah for the IBO and IBF straps at 147. Judah just came off a loss to Baldimor but only lost his WBC and IBO belts...while Judah was technically still a champion, he wasn't in my eyes.....but hey thats the corrupt sport we've come to love.
    3) He than beat Baldimor, whose one title defense was against none other than Arturo Gatti (who somehow deserved a title shot), in perhaps the boringest title fight I HAVE EVER SEEN.
    4) Than he picked up Gay la Hoya's highly coveted strap at 154.

    The point of writing all this was to illustrate that with the exception of MAYBE DLH, Floyd fought the WEAKEST champions in every division he fought in once he moved past 135. The bottom line is, he was to scared to risk losing that "0", so he fought the easiest fights he could and conned the publis (well most of the public) into thinking he was the greatest thing since sliced bread....and now that he's ran out of places to hide from guys like Cotto, Margarito and Mosley, he ****ing retired again like the little coward he is. Hey floyd, saying your the GOAT don't mean **** unless you prove it by fighting the best...and you stopped doing that a long time ago. The criticism you get from HBO and boxing fans has nothing to do with your race and everything to do with the fact that you're a low class, cherry-picking, punk.
     
  9. CrazyMac

    CrazyMac Nearly ExArmy Full Member

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    I would say that the bigger challenge was to move up in wieght class and win the WBC. He could have stayed and had some big fights. However, what is the bigger achievement? Dominating and unifying 2 div over 10 years or winning the wbc belt at 5 different wieght classes. I would say that from a p4p stand point it would be the latter. He would also be considerably poorer lol. That could be the real reason
     
  10. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Wow calling someone a coward and a low class punk over the internet, what a big man you are. Never mind the fact calling someone who puts their life on the line for YOUR entertainment is pretty hilarious.

    And its quite clear you really have no idea what you are babbling about. Firstly, the reason Floyd fought Gatti at 140 was precisley because he could not get a fight with either Kosta Tszyu. Floyd even offered to fight Kosta Tszyu in Russia, apparently the deal was never made because Kosta was a showtime fighter and Mayweather HBO. Hatton's team declined a bout with Mayweather. And if you knew anything whatsoever you would know that Floyd has been calling out Oscar and Mosley for years. 2 years ago Mosley declined to fight Mayweather apparently over a toothache. Oscar not till Floyds victory over Baldomir would never consider Floyd for a match.

    Lastly, Judah was the man at Welterweight before his loss to Baldomir, and Floyd rightly beat the former man to get to the number 1 ranked welterweight champion, he could have just fought Baldomir right off the bat, but he did it the right way, the same Judah that beat Spinks, the same Spinks that beat Mayorga, the same Mayorga that beat Forrest, and the same Forrest that beat Mosley. So if you have any qualms about who Floyd fought to get the undisputed champion tag, take it up with the guys who lost before him and wouldnt fight him.

    Still I challenge you to name one fighter other then maybe Pacman in the top 10 who has a resume even close to approaching Floyds.
     
  11. Cadillac Man

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    The Thruth pretty much broke it down...PBF is a cherry-picker who never challenged himself...Who was his best win against? Corales who was a good fighter not great hardly enough for PBF to say he is the best of all-time...The rascism comment about HBO comes from pure jealousy...Cotto,Pavlik, and Pacquaio wanna fight the best and do so in pleasing style while PBF just uses excuses...He is the biggest fraud in Boxing
     
  12. Cabannero

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    He fought Corrales though, who dropped his IBF title before that fight.

    BTW Cotto-Margarito is not unification also.

    At 135 there were noone interesting apart from Castillo.

    Belts don't mean much nowadays.

    And at 140 Hatton didn't want to risk his title until he miked it enough, and Cotto never wanted to unify too :)
     
  13. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    You're just as big a moron as thruth is. 18-0 in title fights. Who are his great wins. :rofl Didnt he just beat the number 8 ranked p4p fighter in the world by knockout, and Oscar De La Hoya at 154, his 5th weight class all in the same year? Pfft. I'll tell you one thing. Pac is lucky Floyd left 130, cuz there is no way Barrerra, Morales, Marquez, or Pac become anything. I think its pretty unanimous Floyd is favored by KO over every single one of them.
     
  14. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    OP is dead on here.

    Flashy and looks and cherry picking is FROWNED upon in the history books. When you leave stones unturned your legacy suffers for it. Don't leave questionmarks and people won't question you!
     
  15. sweetray

    sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That is no true. Hatton called out Mayweather first.
    Mayweather waited until DLH`s career was ending to
    call out for a fight against him; then backed up in the rematch
    because Dlh would not make the same mistake he did in the
    first fight which PFB won on a split decision, because DLH
    abandoned his jab to go for a ko.