Why didnt Monzon move up?

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  1. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    monzon was a big middlewieght but he never moved up, any of you have an idea what the reason was? maybe lack of competition at the higher weights?
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Could have been for financial reasons that made staying at middleweight more profitable. Then again, perhaps his people didn't feel that his prospects were worth the risk of facing some of the titlists at lightheavyweight during that period.. Guys like John Conteh, Victor Galindez and Saad Muhammad would have dangerous back in those days for a middleweight rising in weight.
     
  3. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    A fight with Conteh was mooted for 1975 but but fell through. Often the reason is cited as the EBU ban on Monzon but I don't think that's true. I think John might have been too big though- he was a heavyweight previously before Ali (amongst others convinced him he'd have no chance vs himself, Frazier and a younger up-and-comer called George Foreman.:D) . He and Galindez were pals so that was always unlikely.
     
  4. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think the name we're looking for is Bob Foster. Foster was light heavyweight champion for most of Monzon's middleweight title reign. I do believe Foster would have been an absolute terror for any middleweight moving up.
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Harry Greb and Mickey Walker would have fought him for better or worse.
     
  6. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because Carlos Monzon liked to beat up smaller men ( Griffith & Napoles). That's the truth.. Monzon lacked hair on his balls... Otherwise he'd have challenged Bob Foster at 175 pounds... But Monzon never even squeezed a fart in that direction.... WHY?:patsch

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    Personally, I'm a 'Hagler' nutgrabber.... Peace...
     
  7. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Sorted now. :good
     
  8. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    :lol:
     
  9. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Don't grab his nuts too hard mind. Infact, grab them tightly. His wife said they are made of steel.
     
  10. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Apparently, if you slice Marv's testicles open you'll find a miniature boxing glove in each one.
     
  11. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hagler was a natural 160 pounder who often weighed 157, 158 & 159 for his fights....... At best, without looking chunky, 168 would be tops for Hagler..

    Carlos Monzon was a BIG 160 pounder who often struggled to get that low. Monzon could've easily fought at 170 to 175 pounds without looking porky in the girth... If anyone should've moved up, it was Monzon....

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    Too bad Super-Middle didn't exist back then... The hell was the commission / organization thinking? 168 makes a whole lotta' sense to me.... Remember Lindell Holmes??
     
  12. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Does it hurt his legacy that some of his biggest wins were over naturally smaller men moving up like Napoles and Griffith?. Maybe you could even say Benvenuti because he was champ at light middle for a while.

    ???
     
  13. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Griffith and Benvenuti were more than proven enough at MW.
     
  14. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    True...Plus Benvenuti was a bigger than average lightmiddle in the film Ive seen, he has to be almost 6ft.
     
  15. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Also anyone seen the first Monzon-Briscoe fight in Argentina? I didnt even realise they fought each other early on.

    A draw in Argentina...hmmmm.