Why didn't Tsyzu target Fundora's body more?

Beterbiev finished off a running Marcus Browne with a crater sized cut pouring into his eyes. With a bodyshot by the way.

 

Because while Tim is a world class boxer he isn't close to what people think he is.
He does not and never had the numbing power of his father.
He doesn't have huge power like people like to pretend and he isn't very fast either.
He is a well rounded pro fighter who is world class but he is not even close to a Crawford who would not only dominate Tim but would stop him.
And an undamaged Errol would beat the hell out of Tim so when they make that fight remember I told you what would happen.

 

Beterbiev's cut is not nearly as bad as Tim's cut and it was in a better location. Beterbiev's cut is near the center of his forehead, and the blood was going down on his nose most of the time.

Tim's cut is much more severe and the blood was flowing into his left eye.

Beterbiev handled the cut well, but they're not the same. Tim had it much worse.

 

Maybe because he would be punished to the head if he went for Fundora's body?

 

Shouldn't you be complaning about how Fundora should be a SprHW fighting Zhang, Wilder or Fury??

 

Are you serious right now

 

The dismissals of Tim’s cut and the obvious, consequential impairment to his vision are mind blowing.

Ali showed relative disdain for throwing body punches - WHY? - because it increased the likelihood of copping head shots - young Ali, though tough, thought he was too pretty and didn’t want his mug messed up.

With two clear eyes, reaching to land body shots on a 6’5”, 80” reached opponent is bad enough - but being partially blinded would make it so much riskier.

Beyond round 4, Tim was also at risk of the fight being stopped and losing right then and there, due to the effects of the cut.

The results of a body attack aren’t immediate and such an attack over an extended period could well have invited sufficient counter and further damage to the cut to see the fight stopped.

The criticisms of Tszyu have actually reached the point of Tim and his fans being shamelessly trolled. That’s exactly what it is - trolling.

The Tszyu Train will be up and running again…very soon and I’ll be buying my fare ticket. Get down and jiggly with it! : -

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Unfamiliarity with the situation was at the heart of the matter, Tim was having success with the rights before that horrible gash and inexperience prevented him from going on a concentrated body attack after sustaining it. I believe the inside would have been the safest place TT could have been, laying his head on Fundora's chest and pounding away, preferably against the ropes. This strategy not only basically does away with the need for depth perception (as less of it is required compared to head-hunting), it protects the eye from the jab and also the twisting motion at the end of a punch which tears and rends, which shrewd fighters of the past would use to further tear existing cuts.

 

I guess Timmy and his crew never heard of Avitene. Last time I checked, straight Vaseline wasn't a very good anticoagulant. LOL

 

After the 4th, if the doctor stopped the fight, it goes to the score cards because the cut was accidental. Now, if the doctor stopped the fight because Fundora was swallowing too much blood, due to the broken nose, he would have lost right there. Legal punch caused the initial damage.

 

Yeah, it appeared their dealing with the cut wasn’t very good.

They couldn’t even at least stem the flow during the rest period - still ****ing out and down when Tszyu lifted off his stool for each and every next round.

Perhaps it further and more deeply qualified itself as a freak cut in so far there being no reasonable way to stop the bleeding - the placement being a singularly high bleed and irreparable area.

Roger that but I think I made my understanding of that clear.

Additionally, if stopped before 4 completed rounds due to the accidental cut, though the cards favoured Tim, I don’t think they would’ve deferred to the scorecards - rather, the fight would’ve been declared a technical draw or no contest.

I wonder how they rationalise their demarcation point of the 4th round. I assume that threshold to be a static, inflexible point in all fights??

Say an accidental cut like that occurred after the 4th round - would that have meant that Tim was immediately placed into a default loss if the fight was stopped due to the cut? Perhaps not IF the fight was immediacy stopped - but it seems there would be no provision for X amount of rounds after the cut was incurred.

It would seem more logical to allow a specific “grace” period after the cut was incurred - as it was in the fight, for a tech draw or NC to be called, there was only a 2 rounds window for potential allowance of same.

I know it’s likely problematic any which way - but perhaps an allowance of say, 4 rounds, after the cut was incurred might’ve made more sense - that would’ve allowed for a possible stoppage up to round 6.

As it was, some pressure on the ref I would think.

Imagine he allowed the fight to go beyond 4 (as he did) but then stopped the fight just a few rounds later, shortly after entering the realm
of when a stoppage would = a loss for Tszyu - a very bad look.

As such, that could’ve compromised the refs better judgment thereafter - in so far as his duly stopping the fight as and when appropriate during any of post 4th round, rounds.

 

Maybe the 4 round rule is considering 4 rounders for new pros? To your point, if an accidental cut happens after the 4th and the injured fighter cannot continue, it goes to the score card. Accidental is the key word. If there is the Vitali/Lewis cut, which was caused by a legal punch, then the injured fighter loses.

 

Yeah, that’s the way I understand it - accidental cut after > 4 rounds, then in the event of stoppage due to that cut, they go to the scorecards -

 

The cut was gruesome and it blinded him. He was clearly unable to see what was coming at him.

 

The interpretation of that rule has changed over the years too. The accidental cut after 4 rounds scenario. Growing up, I remember it being officiated by the ref as follows : cut is ruled too bad for fighter to continue, go to scorecards or if 4 rounds are not completed it's a NC. However if it's the fighter saying he can't see or can't continue, then he would lose the fight due to a retirement. This changed through the years to the point where if the fighter cut by accident wanted to quit then it would go to the cards or be a NC.