Why didn't Tyson use any head movement in the Buster Douglas fight?

And there will always be people making a million excuses of why he got beat in Tokyo.

 

I think the haters surpass the nut huggers in their idiocy :good

 

I think his entire career should be taken into consideration, every fight, (apart from the late losses that can be forgotten).
The problem is, too many people will erase the Douglas defeat, write it off as if it's a fluke or something that happened to some other fighter. Like "it doesn't count".
That's why these discussions even occur.

 

If you want to label people "haters", consider than Buster Douglas has like one remarkable win, one world title win, in his whole career, and people are discrediting it, and downgrading his achievement, to save Tyson's reputation.

It's almost funny that Douglas gets shitted on so thoroughly. And when we say "Hey, he won the fight. he knew how to beat Tyson. He proved Tyson wasn't invincible. Douglas won. Tyson lost. That's it." .... it's seen as HATRED of Tyson.
So what about Douglas "haters" who can't accept he beats Tyson ?

 

I've never actually heard the expression "douglas hater".. But I see it plenty around here almost daily and plenty who exercise the practice.

 

Douglas has haters from both sides.
Douglas has haters who are Tyson nut-huggers.
And Douglas gets hate from Tyson haters.
Both sides call him a bum. :rofl

 

Good post Magoo. And this is really the problem we have with Tyson. He took out Ruddock twice which has merit, but a win against Holyfield could and probably would bolster the claim that the Douglas loss was a fluke.

 

Well I guess you'd be hard pressed to find a Buster nut hugger.

 

The flipside is a Holyfield LOSS.
I guess, if things were fair and equal, that would bolster the claim that Tyson was a flawed fighter all along ? ...... or would it just be written off as another fluke, or sign that the "real Tyson" didn't show again ?
I suspect the latter would occur.

 

:rofl

 

How the hell can a systematic beat down be classed as a fluke?? Tyson was dominated from the opening bell of the fight!

 

I wouldn't call it a fluke. Douglas came prepared.. Saw his oppertunity. And fought the best fight of his career. The question should be, was TYSON prepared? Sure we've all heard the excuses passed off as explanations. But for me, a big change in management to having relatively unknowns in your corner, only fighting 93 seconds over the previous year and having all kinds of distractions outside the ring without someone steering him back to reality could certainly play a part. Greg Page decking him in training was a red flag.

 

Well Tyson came in at a good fighting weight so he was in good condition, Tyson didn't do too bad against Bruno and Williams with the same team so I'm not buying the excuses!

Greg Page could deck any fighter with that right hand of his so that's not exactly a big suprise

 

I didn't say anything about him being out of shape. I think his problems were more skill based and motivational. Some of the things that he did in the Berbick, Thomas and Tucker fights of 86-87 weren't there against Douglas or even Ruddock for that matter. The Williams and Bruno fights were the result of ending the bouts with big shots that were easily landed and early. He didn't do this against Douglas and no longer had the skills or the will to impose himself later. At any rate, I'm going to go back to what I said before ( which I've repeated at least three times now, ) While Tyson can't be given a pardon for his defeat to Douglas, I still would have liked to have seen that fight under more ideal circumstances for Tyson.

 

Well maybe Douglas just didn't allow him to show off those skills, he dominated Tyson from the offset with his piston like jab and lightning right hand. Bruno wasn't blown out early at all, Tyson eventually finished him at the end of the 5th round.