why didn't ward took the bute fight?

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  1. dsr

    dsr Active Member Full Member

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    who in his right mind would refuse a career high payday by fighting a belt holder that was in his view easy win? Bonus, you get to hold another belt.

    the "he is not proven against top opposition" is just a lame excuse to avoid him when this should be another reason to fight him and win.

    makes no sense so we can easy call this a shameless duck. And look, he is now the second on P4P list haha; let me ask you this, what are his options as a P4P second to a fight that would come closer to a Bute fight (winnings wise)?
     
  2. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    scared. now saves face, since helost twice since. it'd still be better than who he fights next, odds are.
     
  3. Barry Smith

    Barry Smith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But Ward was right, Bute was not proven at the top level and when he did step up he took a vicious, one-sided beating. Had Bute beat Froch then I'm sure the Ward fight would have happened.
     
  4. boxing_master

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  5. dsr

    dsr Active Member Full Member

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    this is irrelevant and the duck is still a duck
     
  6. dsr

    dsr Active Member Full Member

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    yes master :?
     
  7. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    The real bad is not take Kovalev fight then fight RODRIGUEZ!!!!
     
  8. Barry Smith

    Barry Smith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bute was a hype job who has been exposed, the game is up, get over it.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm a Ward fan but even I'm utterly bemused by the way Ward has conducted his career.

    After beating Froch he said he wanted to take some time off, but for some reason he expected the entire division to do the same while he was taking a holiday. He said Bute was unproven and they needed to build the fight up for a later date. Bute signs to fight Froch to prove himself and hopefully by beating Ward's latest opponent build up a potential match up and then Ward complains about Bute signing to fight Froch and not him. Bute simply did what Ward asked of him.

    The Bute fight was not going to get any bigger than it was at the time. Ward had just won the super 6, Bute was undefeated, had just beaten Glen Johnson and was the only highly ranked super middle not included in the super 6.

    I personally don't think it was an outright duck but Ward for all is ring smarts is absolutely clueless when it comes to managing his own career. He blew the momentum he got when winning the super 6 by not fighting for 9 months and allowing the biggest fight available to him slip by, beats Dawson only to be injured and out for 14 months, comes back again then stalls his career with promotional disputes. Mind boggling he's mastered the art of career suicide.
     
  10. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    While not overly proven, Bute had decent top ten wins over Bika (who Ward fought,) and Andrade, Bute was rated top 5 Super middleweight and would have been seen a good win at the time for Ward as many rated Bute highly, also would have been a career high payday for Ward.
     
  11. Barry Smith

    Barry Smith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree, whilst Ward was correct in what he said about Bute being unproven, he did miss a trick by not fighting him before Froch destroyed him as it would have been an easy win and I wouldn't be surprised is Ward even got the stoppage.
     
  12. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its not irrelevant at all
    bute's name was only 'in the mix' at SMW because people gave too much value to him having 'a belt' and not enough value to who he fought

    he stepped up once - once - and was destroyed

    just because a fighter has 'a belt' and an impressively padded record, isn't an excuse for supposedly 'educated fans' to defend his complete lack of pedigree

    let the uninformed fan wave their flags and support the bute's and sturm's of this world, because regulars on this forum should know better than to promote them when they haven't achieved diddly
     
  13. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe your right but outside of Froch, Kessler and Dawson, Bute was atleast as accomplished as Bika, Green, Rodriguez and possibly a better win at 168 lbs than Abraham.( Supermiddle weight clearly wasn't Abraham best weight.).
     
  14. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    true, but since bute put himself in the position of 'contender' by taking the path of least resistance (not taking part in the super six, which essentially determined who would succeed calzaghe, and not having fought one of it's premier players), a fight against froch (or Kessler) first seemed appropriate in order to give his challenge credibility
     
  15. Ol' Bub

    Ol' Bub Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would guess that Bute's more impressive performances against common opponents(Bika,Miranda) had more to do with Ward not wanting that fight than anything.
    Also, Ward would've most likely had to travel to a foreign country.:rofl