Quote: To be perfectly honest, no disrespect to Bute and his team, but they've sat back and they've fought B-level and C-level guys and he did what he was supposed to do," said Ward, failing to grasp that Bute wasn't invited to the Super Six and had no A-level opponents available to him. "He stopped them and he's gotten them out of there. But he's just been sitting back, waiting, while we've been fighting for the past two and a half years against top-level competition. You're one of a handful of posters who believe Ward was reluctant to fight Bute lmmfao. Rodriguez was another tough fighter Ward beat. Bute fought his first true threat and got ktfo. People weren't sold on Bute even after he got revenge on Andrade. People remembered when Bute needed home cooking against Andrade in the first fight.
And what made Rodriguez tough? Him beating Grachev Bute had a much better résumé at the time than Rodriguez ever had, yet Ward turned down the fight saying he hadn't beat anyone. You can't even admit is was a fight people wanted to see. People weren't sold on him?... yet the ring ranked him as #1 at SMW (Unjustly sure). Fans where massively sold on him. That's what makes him the quintessential hype job. Loads bought into that hype, and loads wanted to see that fight. We can all talk in hindsight that he was a bum, a hypejob and unworthy. We know that now, we didn't at the time though.
Why do you keep mentioning Rodriguez first off? Bute/Ward could've been made AFTER Ward and Bute won their respective fights, lmao. Fans would've been sold on Bute had he beaten Froch but that didn't happen. I have nothing against Bute. That fight was not in demand at that time.
Bute hadnt done enough in - * Being a world champ longer than Ward * Having had more title defences * Having won more fights against top 10 comp * Being the highest rated SMW by some, and if you are one of the ones who think The Ring mag is the thing to follow, then Bute was the #1 behind Ward as champ, though I did have queries with the ratings around that time * Looking overall more impressive against common opponents Still at least Rodriguez had done enough
Look at Butes last 7 fights and look at Wards. Also, check and see what their records are in that time span.
I agree with you. Ward has proven himself, and Bute will be labeled forever as the quintessential hype job. With that came a lot of hype, and a lot of demand to see the perceived #1 and #2 of the division face off. Especially when the #1 had otherwise cleared out the division.
Whats last 7 fighters got to do with it? Ward was in the S6 comp and did get 2 good names in that time in Kessler and Froch, but that doesnt remove it that he was not interested in Bute who was his biggest rival. As Kessler is still arguably Wards biggest win and Kessler then, had not beaten a top SMW for 3 years, had lost to an old end of career champ having his last fight at the weight, had been off for long periods. All that is forgotten in the hype. Froch, had even lost to Kessler. Bute in that time could be argued to have done more than either in those 3 years, and if you look at Wards top 5 wins, many would put Bika in that list and Bute had already beaten him
How did Ward clear out the division? He beat a faded unwell Kessler who then beat Froch who beat Bute. Tell me what top undefeated SMW did Ward face?
he was perceived to be by a lot of people at the time. In hindsight he clearly wasn't though you're right. Just like Broner was perceived to be p4p by a lot of people when he never should have been.
You must be out of your damn mind, lmmfao...! Go ball this post up and throw it in the garbage. You want to use Bika in your argument and then ask, "what's last 7 fighters got to do with it"?
Undefeated? Whats that got to do with anything. He beat the best SMWs in the world in the S6 clearing out the division. Other than Bute who was there left to fight? The only reason Kessler wasn't undefeated is because he ran into an ATG in Sir Joe.
I havent used Bika as an arguement, just pointed that part out. Now tell me, which part do you call rubbish and please break it down because I dont think you can. This will be good . Remember each part