why didn't ward took the bute fight?

Yeah Froch beat Bute. Beat his ass too.

Kessler faded, unwell, lmmfao.

Those Super 6 fighters didn't have to be undefeated. They were the best Super 6 in the division.

 

LOL.

When the hell was Broner ever placed in the p4p by any serious boxing expert or org?
I think that more likely Broner got hyped up by fanatic fans in the same way lacy did, but not one serious actually believes this hype.
Now Bute was totally different then Broner. Bute was being hyped by the media, the orgs and the fans. This is why Ward's statements were always so P.C. when talking about Bute because of the massive media hype.

 

Break down what? You don't have an argument to break down.

I'll just be blunt.

Wards last 7 fights are FAR superior in resume than Bute's last 7 fights. Ward beat Froch and Froch beat the tar out of Bute. You don't really have anything to say, lmao.

Bute should've lost to Andrade in fight 1.

This argument is over.

 

I don't know? Maybe the ring magazine who had Broner at p4p #6?

Just because Broner got exposed at a lower level, doesn't mean the hype wasn't massive.

Aren't you Mr Pibb?

 

So you couldnt break it down and point out what you called rubbish. Your're right the arguement is over because you cant debate your way out and have been schooled.
I was shocked that Bute was let to go on against Andrade first time around. Thats not in question.
What is in question is Ward not being interested in Bute and you trying to excuse that and implying Bute wasnt worthy.

In fact I will look into Ward up to when the S6 finished and Bute as to where he was and what he had done at that time.

Ward beat -

Kessler good win
Green
Bika already beaten by Bute
Abraham who had lost his last 2 S6 fights
Froch good win


Bute beat -

Bika
Berrio
Joppy
Andrade twice
Zuniga
Miranda already beaten by Ward
Brinkley
Magee
Mendy
Johnson

Do note also that Magee before the finish was giving Froch a tough fight and only a point behind on 2 cards and Johnson had just taken Froch to a Mdec and Bute beat both clearly. Bute to some looked more impressive against Bika and Miranda.

Now Ward has the 2 best names in Kessler and Froch, Bika and Miranda they share, but after that Bute with wins over Magee arguably is greater than Abraham, Johnson is above Green as a win, then Bute has Andrade, Berrio, Zuniga, Mendy which I wouldnt compare equals as great as the 2 wins of Wards but shows overall that there is not loads in it when you consider Froch was 2-1 in his last 3 fights coming off a Mdec to a fighter Bute clearly beat and Kessler had not beaten a top SMW for 3 years prior to Ward beating him

 

How was Taylor coming off a KO loss, Abraham with no pedigree at the weight, Dirrell who had not done much and Ward at that time not done much be considered the best at that time? Froch had only made one defence which was Taylor at that point and Kessler had not beaten a top SMW for around 3 years.
Bute had been successful in around 5 world title fights at that time and beaten a defending champ, which Froch and Kessler hadnt done to hold their titles at that time

 

Undefeated means jack **** 95% its just padded record,

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!!! Padded records are there to fool stupid boxing fans, and i see on some it works.

 

Is that right. tell me do fighters like Bute, Lacy seem the same after devastating losses. Even Kessler at that.
Or going back a few years some top fighters who you may think seemed the same or different after losses - D Curry or M Taylor who were considered top fighters.

Did any seem the same after losing their 0 and have the same undefeated fighters confidence after?

 

Styles make fights. Bute is more difficult to him due to speed factor. He would beat him but would not look so impressive.

 

Yes it is true, its not confidence its skill Bute and Lacy dont have, they were hypejobs just like your undefeated C+ level fighter Cleverly they had their 0 but

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MAB had 3 losses before schooling Hamed, Pac had 2 or 3 losses before anyone had heard about him and he went on to become ATG, Wlad was KTFO 3 times and he became better after losses and became dominant HW champ, SRL lost his 0 against Duran, than he beat Duran, Hearns and Hagler, Ali lost to Frazier and Norton than knocked out Foreman, so yeah you theory is totally untrue and you dont know what you are talking about.
As you see ATG fighters came back from losses and dominated again while fighters you mnetioned did not, why because they were not as good as foolish fans like you thought they were because of their 0 whats the difference between fighters you mentioned and fighters i mentioned is that these proven fighters came back because of their skill and ability that made them part of ELITE fighters which Bute Lacy Clevelry never were!!!
Edit: Add B Hop to that list he came back numerous times from his losses because he has the skills...

 

So you now say unless its an atg you cant come back?
Its not the same for all fighters but many have an undefeated fighters confidence as shown.
So D Curry after losing his 0 later lost to a 23-9-1 fighter in what was considered a big upset. Do you think that was due to skill when he was once considered a P4P fighter?
The idea of an ATG is exactly that, but many fighters arent all time greats, which makes your point look weaker

 

No i just pointed out that guys became ATG worthy after getting beat up, because they had skill it just needed to improve and they did, if you have skill for top level loss will not stop you you can learn from loss, face it 0 doesnt make the fighter its who he faced , beating B- or C level fighters and having 0 means jack **** once you face top fighters you lose because you didnt have the skill for highest level, simple as that.
Actually fighter proves how good he is through adversity(loss included) and some just fold like Bute, Cleverly etc some rebound and show they are made for top level those that do not clearly never belonged on highest level.

 

Because Ward who happens to be a fighter, knows when his opponent is a hype job unlike stupid fans who are emotionally compromised by dick riding these hype jobs. See GGG and Bute.

 

Skills without confidence means nothing, not only in boxing, but in any sport. Listen to Yogi Berra when he said that 90% was mental and the other half is physical.