Why didn't Wlad go for the WBC belt after Vitali retired

I love the Wilder fans. They hype up beating 39 year old Ortiz and downplay Wilder's losses to Parker and Zhang...because Wilder was 39 years old.

Cant make it up XD

 

Why are people so dense?
Zhang and Ortiz are late peaking fighters

wilders peak has long gone.

for example, Mike Tyson peaked in his late teens, early 20’s….lennox Lewis peaked lots later.
Different fighters peak and get old at different stages. What is hard to understand?

 

That´s fair too. I think it´s valid to criticize Wilder for ducking Wladimir and it´s fine to point out why he did it at the time. Wilder was a very inexperienced boxer and had no business fighting for a world title.

 

People have got their dates wrong fully here in regards of Wilder.

The question was why didn't Wlad go for the WBC?

Wilder was never WBC champion until 2015. Also, Vitali retired in 2012.

When Wilder become champion in 2015, Wlad got tied up with Fury in late 2015, and waited for Fury to get the rematch before Fury pulled out in 2016 so Wlad fought AJ in 2017.

 

The dates are not mixed up.
You are right, vitali retired WBC in 2012 and wilder won it in 2015.

the question was why didn’t wlad go for the wbc (anytime after 2012) and the answer this very smart forum of enthusiasts came up with was it was wilders fault!

 

Seems like it's 100% Wilder's fault Wlad didn't go after the WBC belt after Vutali retired. It must be given pretty much every poster prior to me agrees it is Wilder's fault.

Curious though, Vitali retired more than once, Wilder wasn't the first champion to get Vitali's belt, and Wlad was never part of any discussion about picking up Vitali's belt prior to Wilder owning it.

It makes sense Wlad didn't get the WBC from 04-08 because Wilder doe.

It makes sense Wlad allowed a WBC vacancy fight to happen without him because Wilder doe

It makes sense Wlad allowed the new WBC champion to make a defense instead of unifying because Wilder doe.


Y'all ... that's really stupid. Wlad made no attempt at being undisputed. Just like how his career does overlap with names that were talented despite none of them being on his resume. Wlad did not pursue hard fights either.

 

So why is Ortiz treated as s prime ATG win for Wilder, But when same standards apply to Wilder there are excuses...???

DENSE.

Mike Tyson is a horrible analogy. Did Wilder go to prison for three years? Did Wilder's literal adopted father and HOF trainer (Cus D'amato) die? Did Wilder have trouble with drugs and Don King???

Tyson's peak was as short as it was for dozens of reasons. Awful analogy. Dense even.

Deontay Wilder is the single most overrated fighter since 2000.

 

Wilder was fighting bums from 2013-14. He was not champion until 2015. I don't recall Wlad and Wilder having a final eliminator (highly doubt it would have been possible as Wlad was already a 2 belt champ) nor I remember which fight made Wilder WBC number 1 mandatory if they did that - I think it was against Malik Scott in 2014. But, I do defo remember the WBC made the title vacant and let Arreola and Stiverne fight for it that same year.

I do actually remember though the day after Wilder won the WBC in 2015, 3 years after Vitali had his last fight. Wlad had announced he was fighting Bryant Jennings then he would fight Fury after Jennings.

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Ortiz was a good solid win, not prime atg.
Think your getting your narratives mixed up here, I haven’t seen anyone claim Ortiz was what you’re claiming. what standards were applied to wilder that have been excused?

Tyson’s style is typically a younger style. Anybody with sense knows this. It’s too intense to have longevity with age.
Is it wilders fault Tyson raped someone?
Is it wilders fault cus died?

everyone has problems in their career.

Tyson also had some of the best in the industry behind him, paying, promoting, managing and matchmaking his career.
most prospects have an element of being manufactured, Tyson had some of the industry best guys invested in him. He was no victim at this point.

 

Sounds like a wilder duck

 

It sad idle in 2013 because Vitali retired in December of 2013. People just look at his last fight in 2012 and think that´s when Vitali retired, which isn´t what happened.
I remember Charr making a big fuss about the retirement, as if he had ran Vitali out of the sport or something.

Vitali retired late 2013, and 4/5 months later Arreola and Stiverne fought for the vacant belt, with Wilder already being set as the mandatory.