Why didnt Wladimir Klitschko have a rematch with Corrie Sanders?

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  1. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sanders with his fast hands and power would always be a dangerous fight for guys like Vlad and Lennox Lewis, the key would be to get past the 1st 4 rounds and Corrie starts to fizzle. The Vlad of the Haye fight beats him badly after a careful 5 rounds of moving jabbing and holding WK lets the bombs out a bit and Sanders winds up on the floor for good, still a dangerous few rounds ...Vitali a horse of a different color than his brother and Lennox and had the style to get past the first 4 rounds and batter a tired Sanders with less danger than brother and LL but styles,strengths and weaknesses counteract
     
  2. PowerPuncher

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    It was mooted around the time, I forget the details. I'm not sure Wlad does better in an immediate rematch, it'd be interesting.
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Unless Wlad tried some completely different approach in an immediate rematch, which wasn't likely at the time,...why would things be any different a second time around, what with Sanders soaring confidence and Wlad's damaged psyche and ego?
     
  4. he grant

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    Wlad wanted zero part of rematching Sanders .. the recycled Wlad may very well have decisioned any Sanders as Corrie was never the most determined or conditioned guy but the fact remains that Wlad's chin was and remains china .. to his credit he has managed to rebuild and dominate but this does not mean he would have survived against the best .. that chin would never hold.
     
  5. Bummy Davis

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    I am not so sure his chin was as bad as some make it out to be. IMO it was his inability to clinch and hold and he got bombed in the 1st Sanders fight. He did not know how to get out of trouble when bum-rushed vs Sanders and had stamina issues in the Brewster and Purity fights. Lennox Lewis overcame 2 1-punch KO loses

    The 1st Sam Peter fight showed me Vlad could get up and win and still had late power. I think young fighters with great strengths such as Lewis,Vlad, Louis, are lucky to recognize or have someone recognize there weaknesses. Manny improved on Vlad and Lennox as Chappie did with Louis and those improvements made monumental differences. I think if Cus would have been around with Tyson, he may have passed the Buster Douglas affair or would have bounced back stronger.
     
  6. HerolGee

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    why walk into another 2 round loss? it makes no sense.

    Wlad saved himself another 200 second beating by not committing to a rematch with this 38 year old retired failure.

    Also it makes a nice story that Vits his brother got the title back for him.
     
  7. mcvey

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    Bottom line Lewis avenged his losses, so do Louis, Wlad never rematched Sanders he got his brother to do it.
     
  8. Grinder

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  9. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Hammers" is a misnomer in that title. Wlad basically got badly winded after beating the daylights out Brewster and succumb to fatigue in the 4th and 5th rounds. Brewster's punches didn't really hurt him and he didn't legitimately knock him down either, Klitschko just fell down and couldn't get off the floor because of fatigue just like at the end of round 4. For some reason his cardio in this fight was abysmal.
    After the fight he nearly went into a diabetic coma which is bizarre for someone to have if they don't have diabetes.


    As an objective observer I think the notion that he was poisoned is not unreasonable to suspect, given how quickly and badly he fatigued. It looked more suspect than George Foreman vs Ali, where Foreman said for years that he was poisoned.


    The answer to my question has already been given. After the fight Sanders relinquished the WBO title he won from Wlad which squashed any chance of an instant rematch(that Wlad said he wanted right after the fight). Sanders then fought Vitali for a nice payday. After that brutal loss he just stopped being a factor at HW and taking big fights.
     
  10. fists of fury

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    But how and why would he be poisoned? Granted, he looked utterly spent after the fight and he looked on the verge of passing out. Frankly, I've never seen a fighter look so drained after a fight.
    But still...poisoned?
    Some have gone so far as to say his former trainer Fritz Zdunek (sp?) went and poisoned him.
    I have a hard time buying the poisoning angle without any actual proof of foul play.

    I tend to think occam's razor applies here.
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    His blood sugar level was raised by the IV drip he was attached to in the ambulance on the way to the hospital.
    No mysterious poison was ever found in his blood stream.

    Wlad was a bad loser and couldn't take responsibility for the loss.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    Why should sanders rematch him? Unifying with Vitali was a much better fight at the time.
     
  13. mcvey

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    It certainly made sense for Wlad!:lol:
     
  14. ForemanJab

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    The guy you mentioned, Fritz Sdunek, was always the fall guy for the poisoning allegations partly because he was the one who was insistent on Wlad drinking from the water bottle between rounds and he had a clear motive. He wanted Steward out of the picture and wanted to take back his former star pupil. The day after the fight on German tv Sdunek was saying that Steward had been fired and would no longer corner Wlad, this of course was discredited when Wlad informed the media that Steward would remain his trainer. So Sdunek was thinking for himself and looking his own interests...Also why was he in the corner giving water when Steward was the chief second?

    There was also Don King (Brewster's promoter) in midst of all this who was a suspect as well. The poisoning allegation were serious enough to warrant a federal investigation, that went nowhere because the water bottle and post fight urine sample had quickly and mysterious disappeared.

    Klitschko until this day maintains that he was poisoned( but he doesn't ***** about it like Foreman).

    Was he? We will never know. He may have fatigued naturally. All we know for certain is that there were motives and persons involved that could of made it happen.

    It should be stated that he rebounded from that devastating loss, picked up the pieces and has gone on one of the most successful runs in boxing history. This should be commended because most fighters after such a defeat are mentally never the same.
     
  15. fists of fury

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    The issue I have with Sdunek being the culprit, if indeed foul play was at hand, is that Vitali retained his services to the very end. Had the Klits seriously suspected him of foul play, then surely Vitali would have cut him loose?
    Anyway, I cannot comment further as there is no real evidence to prove these allegations.

    As for Foreman, I doubt anyone takes it seriously. No guy who has been poisoned can throw over 100 punches in the 7th round on a steaming hot night. (I think the actual number was 125 punches, but I can't recall without checking.)