Why do boxers....

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by nuffin_man, May 24, 2011.


  1. nuffin_man

    nuffin_man Guest

    .... tend to do long runs (5-10miles) e.t.c when getting in shape for a fight? Would HIIT training, like sprinters and the like do, not be better as its more explosive and better at quicker fat burning?

    Never understand why they run like they're training for a marathon and not 12 x 3 minutes explosive rounds?
     
  2. Boxinglad123

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    I believe running has to be combined with HIIT. I do 4 miles of running 5 times per week now, I also do conditioning drills though. Both are beneficial.
     
  3. Johnboy2007

    Johnboy2007 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe alot of boxers do it through ignorance. People just see boxing as boxing. The professional boxers that fight 8-12 rounds have completely different demands than say an amateur boxer.

    Alot of it is oldschool , never did any harm for joe frazier ect ect. Its starting to get there but from a sports science view boxing is so far behind other sports
     
  4. Ylem

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    when you breath normally you dont exchange any where near the same amount of air as you would if you were to push out all the air in your lungs and take a deep breath. this is because your body keeps 50-75% of your lung capacity in a resivior in your lungs. this resiviour gives your lungs a contant supply of oxygen even when your breathing in or out.

    when your stressed, getting hit, performing intense exercise your breathing can get out of rythm. if you keep taking short breaths all you exchange is the air you just breathed while your resivor becomes more and more stale, if you take deep breaths and exhale to much your resivior is empy for a moment and your lungs lack air for that moment.

    running and biking long distances allow you to just consentrate on breathing, breathing to the rythm of your foot steps to the rythm of pedaling the rythm in your head. this is the most important factor of running long distances to a boxer. it is to keep the breath steady and keep your your resivior continually being refreshed with every breath, to allow you a constant supply of oyxegen.

    side effects of running long distnace/ biking distance also include leg endurance, cardio, and the fact that your not wearing your self out so much that it subtracts from your actual boxing training.

    the second biggest mistake people make is thinking that long distance running is to improve cardio and they end up spending all their time only doing long distance running. its not for cardio, its for breathing, though with better breathing calmer breathing you will reduce the time needed for your heart to return to a normal rate.

    the best way to improve your cardio is hiit training, be it sprining, hitting the bag shadow boxing, sparring, ect anything intense tabta intervals fatlecks or what ever.

    while the biggest mistake people make is thinking that long distance running is only to improve cardio and so they only do Hiit because they know its better for cardio while they completly neglect the breathing advantages of long distance training.

    amatures should defiantly do more hiit then long distance, but they should still mix it up. pros fighting 12 rounds should defiantly do more long distance then hiit sprinting wise (as they are allready probly sparring hitting the bag shadow boxing 12+ rounds a day of hiit) but they should still mix in hiit running.
     
  5. Johnboy2007

    Johnboy2007 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    biggest mistake a boxer can make when first starting out is to listen too anything Ylem says.
     
  6. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why? what is incorrect with what ive said here?

    if you dont understand what ive said you can just say "im sorry ylem,but i dont understand what your saying can you explain it alittle easier for me?"

    theres really no need to automatically assume its wrong just because your an idiot.

    nows when they discredit my characater, harras me, and bring up things completly off topic while argueing against things i havnt even said....not to mention the influx of alts that will magically appear.
     
  7. Johnboy2007

    Johnboy2007 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "im sorry ylem,but i dont understand what your saying can you explain it alittle easier for me?" :oops::oops::oops::oops:
     
  8. Johnboy2007

    Johnboy2007 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    iv highlighted the bits im too stupid and thick to understand if youve got time id be really grateful if you could explain it to me. Especially if you could give me a definition of what Cardio actually is???
     
  9. Ylem

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    running long distance helps you breath with rythm same as biking long distance, when your sprinting intervals your not thinking about breathing your thinking about running as hard as you can, when your running at a calm steady pace you can stare off into the distance and just think about breathing.

    running long distance is **** for cardio its horribly inefficient and if you want to improve your cardio then sprint. if you want to improve how steady your breathing is then biking or running long distance is much better then sprinting.

    a good boxer does sprints and long distance running

    cardio is the rate that your heart rate returns to normal after intense exercise.

    your lungs hold about 75% more air then you inhale and exhale with a single breath. when some one is hyperventalating they are breathing in and out very quickly, if they are breathig in so much oxygen why do thy pass out? well they only exchange a little bit of the air in their lungs the rest of the oxegen intheir lungs gets consumed and becomes CO2 so they have this air in 75% of their lungs thats all co2 while they keep exchangin only the top 25% of their lung capacity with fresh air. the lungs re with out enough oxegen and you pass out.

    rythm, when you run distance you breath with the rythm of your foot steps its a constant flow like waves rolling in and out exchanging the air in your lungs, this keeps the 75% resivior fresh with fresh air when your in the ring boxing you have a rythm breathing with the rythm while running helps you breath to any rythm and helps you breath calm and steadily when your in the ring.

    long distance running is low intensity, so you arnt sressing your legs and your burning more fat then glucose/carbs. running long distance does slightly improve your cardio, being on your legs running for an hour improves he stamina/ebndurance of your legs.

    i dont really feel like going on.....
     
  10. Johnboy2007

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    ohhhh thank you i understand now much better

    could you please just explain to me the definition of cardio? aerobic ? anaerobic ? just the actual definitions cos im not really sure.

    From what youve said cardio is how you breathe and getting into a rhythm to be able to breathe steadily and making sure that your reservoir is as full as possible.

    Could you tell me the proper name of this reservoir please? id like to look it up myself maybe get some more knowledge about it iv not heard of it before

    Thanks
     
  11. Ylem

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    cardio is how quickly your heart rate returns to normal after intense exercise.

    your lungs are the resivior, breath out all the air in your lungs and take a deep breath. youve just exhchanged just about all the air in your lungs. now breath normally.......obiviously your not exchanging the same amount of air you just did wheres all that extra air that you exchanged when you took a deep breath? it acts as a resivior in your lungs.
     
  12. nuffin_man

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    I think he may be mocking you...
     
  13. Ylem

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    thanks, i couldnt tell, though the root of the mocking i beive to be a feeling of inferioty when they read my posts and i would like to clear up any confusion one might have.....like thinking

    "From what youve said cardio is how you breathe and getting into a rhythm to be able to breathe steadily and making sure that your reservoir is as full as possible."

    even though i said "long distance running is not for cardio its for breathing"
     
  14. Johnboy2007

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    Cardio is actually any exercise that raises your heart rate above normal for an extended period of time. This is not gained by sprints or intervals. The point of intervals is the opposite to get your heart rate to a high level and in the rest period try and bring it back down.

    And i think the other thing you might be talking about is lung capacity but your posts are filled with such utter bollocks its hard to tell

    What makes me laugh is im far from an expert but i see you on here time and time again spouting your bull **** like its fact!! And the funniest thing is you cant even be arsed to have a quick look on google to even attempt to sound like you know what you are talking about.

    At best your funny to laugh at , at worse your a danger to yourself if you truly believe anything you actually say! Just hope no one as thick as you believes what your saying
     
  15. Johnboy2007

    Johnboy2007 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that is not true you do not know what cardiovascular exercise is