Why do boxing matches need judges?

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  1. PistonHondai

    PistonHondai Active Member Full Member

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    Why can't rounds be decided by punch counts and knock downs tracked by computer?
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Uh.... because boxing is a little more complex and nuanced than that.

    One guy can land 50 pitty pat jabs, but if his opponent lands two shots that has his featherfisted opponent staggering around the ring like a methed out elderly homeless gentleman having a full body seizure while simultaneously shitting his pants, while inexplicably remaining on his feet.

    If left up to Compubox, they'd really get that one wrong.;)
     
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  3. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because punch states and knockdowns aren't indicators regards to whether someone has won a bout.
     
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  4. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh, judges and ref are needed for business and entertainment. :D
     
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  5. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good boxing will be with only one criteria: unlimited number of rounds.
    Winner: last man remained standing.
    To exclude A side boxer's protection and nice business referage, referee too should not been used.
     
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  6. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    It supposedly makes it fairer...
    And it should in practice

    But we all know the reality of that.
     
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  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Judges arent really needed to attend the fights in Vegas as I heard it on the grapevine their scorecards are filled in the night BEFORE the fight lol
     
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  8. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    What makes you think Compubox and those systems are that accurate?

    Besides, it doesn’t account for how clean and hard the punches are anyway.
     
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  9. 007 373 5963

    007 373 5963 Active Member Full Member

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    Ultimately, though, more judges are needed, at least in title fights. I'd say 15. 3 on each side of the ring and 3 watching on cctv. This ensures a number of people scoring the fight from a number of different viewing angles. And plus, having so many more judges should make the final decision significantly more accurate. It would also make it a lot more expensive to "fix" a fight with so many more judges to bribe.
     
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  10. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Why we asking crazy questions?
    Why does boxing need a ref?
     
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  11. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Compubox isn’t a computer, it’s people clicking on connects. There’s a great video showing punches landing on arms or elbows getting counted as punches landed in a round by compubox.

    Also, boxer A lands ten jabs and one power shot. Boxer B lands five power punches and two jabs. Who gets the round? Human judges are here for a reason.
     
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  12. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    There should be five judges. Three as they are now and two on monitors. The two on monitors should vote with the ref on the origin of cuts (punch or head) and fouls. There will be less draws and one disproportionate judge would have less influence.
    The WBC is already considering a version of this for title fights.
     
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  13. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    And robot refs
     
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  14. FrankinDallas

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    Because we need someone other than promoters and crap announcers to get angry about.
     
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  15. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    Matchroom cards don't have judges. They have puppets.
     
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