Why do folk keep saying Haye ran against Wlad when he didn't?

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  1. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    He didnt run, Wlad just doesnt know how to deal with that kind of movement, Wlad doesnt cut off the ring very well against a slick boxer its obvious, He was able to do it with Byrd though But Byrd likely didnt have the same pop in his shots that Haye did so its easier to walk your man down when he doesnt hit very hard.

    The reason people say he ran and the only people who say he ran are the Klitschko fans who put up with loads of disrespect from Haye and years of the fight being put off.

    However I do recall one Klitschko putting off his title defense against Rahman quite a few times and then retired rather than to fight.
     
  2. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Wlad didnt even try to lean on Haye. Haye lean his head so low to make a flopping move in which he did many times. I call that a coward move. Of all the talk from the beginning that haye will ko wlad this and that, haye just prove clearly that he's all talk but didnt walk the walk. For goodness sake haye only land the total of 72. <<<For real only 72? <<<That too me shows haye was scared to take more risk.
     
  3. Jan(DK)

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    Haye had very good reflexes, and Wlad didnt conected the hole night. If one care to rewatch the fight in slowmotion, Haye landed more than Wlad.

    Holyfield - Valuev all over again.............
     
  4. Bazooka

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    Wlad didnt try to lean on Haye? thats exactly why the ref took a point, and whats ****ed up beyond any reason is Manny Stewart basicly ran into the ring and told the ref how to do his job, that should have never been allowed nor should the bogus make up point deduction from Haye as a result of Mannys conversation with the ref.

    it makes boxing look bad, when you have a trainer telling the ref what to do and the ref does it the idea of netural and fairness goes out the window the moment we start allowing this.

    Wlad won the fight but did not in anyway perform any better than did Haye what won Wlad the fight was his popularity and his willingness to come forward and make it look as if he wanted to fight neither guy did **** in that fight to be honest.
     
  5. Flurry

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    :good

    He was happy staying outside and not do anything whilst the fight was slipping away and defeat looming, he preferred not to run any risk and thereby lose the fight to getting close to exchange punches and take the risk of getting hit
     
  6. Jan(DK)

    Jan(DK) Joined april 2007 Full Member

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    His only chance was to try to win the fight on a KO, not to win a UD.
     
  7. Flurry

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    :huh
    He did feck all to achieve the KO though. Also, you can never 100% rely on a ko to happen, meanwhile working on it its good tactics actually trying to win more rounds than your opponent in case the KO doesn't happen.
     
  8. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Anybody with a brain knows haye was clearly flopping. The ref finally notice it. The 1 flop haye did had roy jones say "oh my goodness" in which shows that was a very bad flop in which wlad barely even touch haye's head. And you talking about steward telling the refs? I guess you forgot that booth before the fight was keep telling the refs to watch wlad for holding and to take away a point from wlad if he holds.
     
  9. Bazooka

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    The first couple times he wasnt flopping the time the point was taken from Wlad he did I agree to that, but lets be real Wlad was warned twice for it and it is a foul which is why a point was deducted.

    and Wlad does hold too ****ing much which is why he went from being an exciting fighter pre Brewster to a boring fighter post brewster.
     
  10. Rob887

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    He did go for it in the last round to be fair.
     
  11. AnotherFan

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    Horrible post.

    I watched the fight in slowmotion. Both men struggled to land, but Wlad landed more, cleaner and harder. The only real power shots during the fight came from Wlad.
     
  12. Rob887

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    He over did it in the end, no doubt.

    However it was the right tactic to begin with, to stop Wlad performing his unfair illegal leaning on opponents and it worked as the ref took a point off Wlad as a result.

    He over did it though, no mistake, but it was a fair and correct tactic to begin with.
     
  13. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Im not a wlad fan cause he's freaking boring and he holds way too much but imo haye was flopping more times then wlad was clinching. Even ledderman and Mercent who both hates when fighters hold even say haye was flopping. And dont say larry saying that cause he defending stewards boy cause larry doesn't like lewis when steward was the trainer and larry and steward are not really good friends.
     
  14. Baldwin

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    Not throwing punches and moving and dodging and not doing more for 36 mins is called running in my booked
     
  15. Bazooka

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    They do hate holding but its funny how the ignore it when the Klits fight isnt it? still doesnt change the fact that Wlad was leaning on Haye and has held and leaned on all of his opponents since he picked up stewart its a tactic they use, dont act like you dont know this