Why do guy argue about weight classes and catch weights and ****? Never got it.

Straight forward problem.

Weight classes are there. You weigh in on the day. Des not matter how many pounds you lost to get there. You make the choice.

These are the rules. Contractual disputes are something different.

Sometimes there is a notion that some guy is "cheating" by fighting "smaller" guys. Both guys are subject to the rules of the sport.

End of, for me.

But these threads go on for ever.

 

The problem is when one fighter is in a much stronger negotiating position becasue of who they are. They can then bully their would be opponent into agreeing to all sorts of terms that benefit the fighter in the stronger position.

For example De la Hoya and his small ring small gloves against Mayweather. Pacquiao and his 145 against Cotto.

They can do this because they know that their potential opponent wouldn't make the same money elsewhere so therefore will accept. The reason why it is criticised is because it doesnt necessarily mean that they are competing against the best version of that fighter.

 

eh your right. usually its only critics who complain and the couch potatoes who are jealous of good fighters etc

 

That's not a good example. Cotto was never affected in any way at that weight. Nothing in the fight proves that he was weight drained or anything.

 

Its a perfect example of someone in a more powerful position using their power at the negotiating table. We'll never know the affect it might or might not have had.

 

:deal

 

i dont agree with catch weights at all

stick to the actual weight classes... theres already enough of them

 

Cotto said it wasnt a problem. His trainer said it wasnt a problem. Cotto weighed 146 for his last fight. Post on a messageboard wants to make excuses for a fighter and trainer denying it

 

The thing is that even if he felt fine at the weight it must have been an advantage to Manny to fight at a lighter weight because he is a lighter fighter and fighting at 145 reduced the size difference.

Look at the Marg fight. Marg porbably won't be weight drained at 151 and he will feel fine but it reduces his size advantage over Manny.

Why do you think Mannys people were so insistent on the weight?

 

people are complaining about cotto at 145 when pac is coming from 138 himself the previous fight when jmm came from 135 to fight floyd at 144 which floyd himself disregarded and weighs 146.

 

that dosnt matter cause manny pacquiao is perfect and can do no harm

 

I agree the Floyd fight is another example I should have used.

 

thats the problem. When someone makes a logical point on a thread the hardcore Pacquiao and Mayweather fans just ignore it and then call you a ***** or ******* etc..

 

Because Manny himself weighed 138 for his last fight, Cotto weighed 146. Tell me, exactly who was disadvantaged with them meeting at 145?

Nobody, and I mean nobody knows their body better than the fighter and the trainer. I cannot fathom why you cannot comprehend that, Cotto and his trainer, nutritionist said themselves it did not have an affect.

 

Did you read my comment? What I said was that it reduced the size difference between them.

If a light heavy fought a super middle at 173 he would probably feel fine at the weight. You cannot deny that the size difference between the two has been reduced. Do you understand?