Why do Guzman and Abraham get a pass?

You better wake up . . . the Guzman and Abraham scenario is far from being close . . . it's entirely different.

Guzman didn't make weight and didn't show up for the fight . . . Abraham made weight and was forced not to show up because of illness. Medical records made the difference.

Did Guzman showed any medical document?

 

Prophet is taking grief, but he has a valid point. Both fighters were contractually obligated to show up on fight night to fight, one of them did and one didnt. It only makes sense for the one that didnt to be DQ'd, even if he does have the flu. Its not Marquez's fault that Abraham's immune system couldnt handle making weight without adverse health effects.

If Paul Williams struggled to make the welterweight limit, and appeared weight drained and suddenly becomes ill after the weigh in and request for the fight to be postponed, alot of you would not buy that at all.

 

And you KNOW this because ????

 

If the man had of said 4-5 days before the fight that he had the flu and he wanted to postpone it, a lot lf you would start shiting on about how he wasn't going to make weight and he's looking for the easy way out. But the man did his best to make this fight go ahead until hiss doctor advised him not to.

BTW, the idea of handing somebody a loss on their record for something that happens outside of the ring is ****ing idiotic to say the least. Really really dumb.

 

I told it once and I tell it again - it's attrocious for the boxing fan that a guy makes weight and then pulls out of a fight - even if the reason, and it should be more used than any other excuse, is health. Joan Guzman and Arthur Abraham are the same exact case, they make everybody lose, nobody gets happy, there is nothing they can actually do concerning opponents and fans, they should not be given a free pass. The cost must have been a title or a title shot lost forever.

 

So, Abraham did not come in shape? He made the weight, didn´t he? He didn´t break the contract, so where´s the problem?

 

Ah, and you know that from who?

 

So, he should be DQed in a fight that not even happened? He should lose his title because it´s postboned for 4 weeks? You are talking so much bs in here.

 

So, if a fighter can´t fight because he get´s sick he should be DQed? What´s that for a logic? I hope you get fired because you can´t go to work when you are ill. :good Well, probably you are a 12 year old which still goes to school so this won´t happen but you know what I mean.

 

Where´s your prove?

 

Why? The fight is happening next month. Where´s the problem?

 

If fighters were DQ-d for not showing up, you'd get some fighters trying to get into the ring even if they were not fit to. Some fighters chose to box when ill and usually come to regret it, but you'd have more choosing to fight regardless. I suspect if Abraham was told he'd get a loss on his record he'd go and box. After all, he did a similar thing when his jaw was broken - he only continued because he was told he'd lose the fight if he didn't.

Eventually, by law of statistics, you will get fighters dying in the ring because they weren't given the option of postponing the fight.

Some people might exploit the system and delay fights to get their opponents off balance, but you have to let them get away with this (to a degree, after all you can't postpone a mandatory forever) to make sure the majority doesn't suffer.

 

If it would happen the next time, meaning November 8, Abraham would be stripped of his belt - easy as that.

And btw, Abraham wanted to still go on with the fight but doctor's forbid him to step into the ring.

No rules have been broken if it's the way Abraham and his promoter has stated to the public. No one involved with the show has been harmed financially, except for attendees who had to pay travelling costs.

So just wait for November 8...