Why do Idiots think Floyd Mayweather had more talented than a prime Roberto Duran?

Yeah I know what you mean, Duran could be very unprofessional at times unlike Floyd who always kept his body in tip top shape. Duran had a crazy life outside the ropes which is no excuse but again it is all part of the legend.

In his day was feared, he was pound for pound world no 1 and then defeated fellow great Sugar Ray Leonard. For Duran to have a career that later included wins over Moore, Barkley, Cuevas and pushing arguably the best middleweight ever in Hagler to a close contest was remarkable.

His losses to the likes of Sims and Laing were all his fault, no excuses.

I believe a prepared Roberto Duran defeats Floyd Mayweather Jr (best boxer of the last 20 years) if they met in their primes.

If you believe Mayweather wins I respect that, because you have many reasons to suggest he could, just like I do.

 

Why do idiots say "had more talented"? That doesn't make sense. As far as was Mayweather more talented. Are you kidding me?!? Mayweather was one of the most talented fighters to ever fight 135-147, that has nothing to do with whether he was a better fighter or not. Mayweather was more athletic in every way. Faster, better reflexes, better footwork. So your question is dumb. Saying he is more talented is not a dis to Duran in any way shape or form. It's just the truth.

 

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If we're talking about talent? Absolutely he's more talented than ROberto Duran. There's nothing to even argue there. Many pundits and boxing experts rank Mayweather's talent very highly.

Personally as far as "talent" goes, he might be one of the 5 most skilled boxers in the history of the sport. So yes, I absolutely believe Floyd is more talented than Manos.

That doesn't take away whatsoever from Roberto's incredible career. i personally have Roberto ranked several spots higher than FLoy Mayweather on the ATG ranking because of his incredibly long, dominant run throughout the 70's and what he was able to achieve in the 80's. Still as far as pure talent and skillsets go, I put FLoyd right up there with Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Willie Pep, Benny Leonard, Joe Gans and Muhammad Ali. IMO, these are the 7 most talented fighters P4P.

 

I don't know why people are dissecting their resumes, this discussion isn't about who's ranked higher on the ATG ranking, it's about who is the more talented fighter.

I can't see anyone making a rational argument that Duran is more talented than FLoyd. Even Emmanuel Steward said Floyd's skillset was so elite from such a young age that he had the opportunity to possibly become the greatest fightr who ever lived.

We're talking speed of hand and foot, athleticism, reflexes, defensive ability, power, stamina, offensive accuracy, punch placement, counterpunching, boxing IQ, ring generalship etc. Duran has him on power, and pretty much every other facet I just don't think Duran is superior to him. Floyd is a very complete boxer, I think people forget how good he was at the lighter weights when he was more of an offensive virtuoso and took a lot more chances than he does while campaigning in his 4th and 5th weightclasses.

 

When did Steward say that?

I remember Foreman saying in an early Floyd fight that a trainer can sometimes be a hindrance. for a fighter as talented as Floyd.

 

Once Floyd turned pro on ESPN (mid 90's,) he said as far as talent and skillset goes, FLoyd was already elite and has the chance to be a multi division champion and arguably the greatest fighter who ever lived. he said in all his years he never saw someone as talented as Mayweather Jr. This is coming from a guy who had some pretty amazing fighters in his own stable.

I'm pretty sure I can find the clip somewhere on youtube.

And what I'm saying is a direct quote from him, not some hyperbolic statement whatsoever.

 

Are you aware that Montreal is arguably the GOAT win?

 

His reign at LW was pretty incredible. But I think the reigns of guys like WIllie Pep At FW or Ray Robinson at WW trumps what Duran did at 135.

IMO, his biggest wins of the 70's, where I believe he has a strong argument as fighter of the decade (alongside Carlos Monzon and Muhammad Ali,) was against Ken BUchanan early on in his career in 73, Esteban Dejesus and the very underrated Carlos Palomino (although that fight didn't take place at LW.) Those were his biggest wins in the 70's.

he did fight a LOT of tomato cans early on in his career which absolutely stat padded his record. He was I believe 76-1 going into the first fight with Ray leonard in 1980, but out of those 76 wins, at LEAST 50 of them were against tomato cans. I don't feel like going on boxrec, but he fought exclusively out of Panama for a very long time against guys that had no business sharing the ring with someone as great as him. It's a Julio Casesar Chavez sr type of situation. What he did in the 80's catapulted him into the top 10 all time in my opinion, the moment he really stepped up his level of competition from a fight to fight basis.

 

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Come on Pimp C, you a good dude but this post is all wrong.
To say what you said, you're ignorant of that era. Us mentioning names is not going to really do anything..but I'll do it anyway.


Duran according to all knowledgeable boxing circles is at least Top 3 of all time in terms of lightweight reigns. That doesn't even include the wins up to SRL:

W Sugar Ray Leonard (probably GOAT win in history)
W Ernesto Marcel (ATG, HOF - the most underrated ATG of all time, Duran only 16-0 novice)
W Ken Buchanan (HOF) - Over at Classic, we're all 50:50 over Mayweather-Buchanan
W Carlos Palomino (HOF)
W De Jesus (HOF-to-be)
W De Jesus (HOF-to-be)
W Kobayashi
W Ishimatsu
W Mamby
W Many good contenders

Duran fought many times once every month/every couple of months.

Guess what? Mayweather's longevity is overrated. In boxing, it's about RING AGE.

Mayweather has 49 fights in 19 years. Duran in 19 years has double the amount of fights. Obviously that takes a toll on your body especially if you're a pressure fighter rising up weight classes. (Regardless of how you treat your body between fights).
If you're on the IV, of course you're going to last longer.

Mayweather has wins over very past prime HOF's Mosley, Pacquiao, De La Hoya. Cotto doesn't deserve HOF but will get it from popularity. Genaro is no HOF. Castillo is borderline but isn't HOF.
That's only 3 HOF victories - all were past it by a large amount. Sucks. Therefore, in this time, Duran has more HOF wins on his resume than Mayweather in his WHOLE CAREER.

Duran fought in five different decades, just to throw it out there.

 

I haven't heard much about Marcel. I was surprised to learn he defeated Alexis Arguello.

Latin featherweights from the 70s aren't exactly in a position to gain fame.

Props to a green Duran for defeating the man who beat Arguello.

 

Marcel is a truly great fighter.

W Shibata (a clear 10-5 decision)
W Arguello
W Serrano
W Caraballo (a big name from a monstrous era)
W Mercano

As for the apparent loss to Hernandez, the newspaper reports available say Marcel should have won.
The Marcel that Duran fought is better than anything Mayweather has on his resume. A very intellectual fighter.

 

Heck of win, but there are some very slight mitigating circumstances that prevent it from overtaking Buchanan, DeJesus III, etc. Marcel was fighting above his best weight against a naturally bigger guy. And, he hasn't completely peaked as a boxer at that point.

Still, nice name to have on a resume.

 

No, he doesn't you ****ing moron.

 

Yes he does you ****ing fool
Defense
Counter punching
Ring IQ
Footwork
Accuracy

All of these pbf is more skilled in