Why do Idiots think Floyd Mayweather had more talented than a prime Roberto Duran?

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  1. PJ

    PJ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dafuc does that even mean.

    Talent wise I am the best runner ever.
     
  2. LoRd_inFamousX1

    LoRd_inFamousX1 Lord of the Square Rings Full Member

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  4. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :think

    Defence: Floyd

    Counter-punching: 'Bout even. Duran's counter right was sneaky as hell, but Floyd's bread and butter are his counters.

    Feints: Duran.

    Footwork: Duran was better on the front foot, Floyd off the back foot. I think Duran's abilty to circle was a little bit better than Floyd's ability to walk a guy down. Not too much in this, but edge Duran.

    Ring IQ: Duran was really good at drawing guys into his kind of fight when so inclined. Manos could struggle a bit with movers, though. Floyd's ability to adjust is pretty impressive, though. Not much to split 'em.

    Accuracy: Floyd.

    Pretty even in terms of the skill department.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It would be far more fitting to compare that repulsive little hermaphrodite Floyd to Ossie Duran than Roberto. Floyd's not fit to lace Roberto's spit bucket. :deal
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I respectfully disagree pbf is one of the best counter punchers in the history of the sport his pull counter was a thing of beauty and ridiculously hard to pull off. Duran simply isn't in his class when it comes to countering hell he's not even in pea whitaker ability of countering.

    Footwork pbf hands down pbf could fight at all ranges while Duran couldn't he had trouble with movement. Pbf has never shown that liability.

    Ring IQ you have never seen pbf frustrated like Duran was when he quit against srl. If he had a great ring iq he would have figured out a way to make the neccesary adjustments to deal with srl. Guys with great ring IQ don't quit when things aren't going their way they make adjustments and prevail.
     
  7. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not really. Duran is an another level compared to Floyd. My trainer has all of us watch Duran's fights because he's the best fighter who's ever been on film extensively.

    He can do everything. He can score points because he's aggressive. He can shift, which is something I've tried to learn, but found hard to do. His body punching is absolutely perfect. His feints are magical. His inside fighting is magnificent. Duran actually has the advantage in countering as well.

    Also SRL is vastly superior to Floyd's toughest opponents. The guys that Floyd fought in the condition he fought them in were literally bums compared to Duran's competition. Straight bums.

    Floyd wouldn't have made adjustments to Leonard or Hearns either because he would be picking his teeth up off the canvas. I'd bet my life that Floyd would get completely obliterated by Hearns and Hagler. And I'd bet my car that he gets KO'ed by Leonard too. You just simply don't realize that Floyd's competition were bums compared to Duran!!!
     
  8. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Floyd would kick his ass in no time. UD12.

    Duran lands 25-30%

    Floyd lands 50%
     
  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Can you outline how IV helps?
     
  10. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    You know a fighter has a great record when people argue *when* they fought elite fighters and are not able to list who they dodged. And if Khan is the best you can come up with regarding a name he apparently dodged, you've just argued against your own case. FM has all the names that matter on his record and he beat them all.
     
  11. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    If you really think Maidana could point-score a victory against FM I really think you need to chat with your doctor and get your medication dose upped a bit...
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    If he was on another level he wouldn't be losing to de Jesus quitting against srl damn near killed by hearns getting schooled by Benitez or losing to no hopers in Laing and simms.:tired

    You want to see something hard to do go to a boxing gym and try to do a pull counter and let me know how that works out for you.:yep

    Lastly Duran was not as good of a counter puncher as pbf was Duran wasn't even as good as pea Whitaker when it came to countering. No pull counters he couldn't counter with the hook like pbf could its hilarious to even suggest it. Hopkins toney hell arguably jmm is a better counter puncher than Duran is.
     
  13. scarecrow

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    You said Duran couldn't adjust. And who exactly has mayweather fought that was on the level of Leonard, Hearns and Hagler????

    Mayweather adjusted to bums not Hearns.

    What a magician Floyd was when he adjusted to no stamina having Zab Judah or late 30s Mosley.
     
  14. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Like Ive said time & time again Floyd Mayweather was blessed with incredible God Given boxing talents . No one that understands boxing would argue that. BUT!!
    Talent alone does not make an ATG top 10 fighter. For reasons known only to him he refused to meet his legitimate opposition as we all know. Those he did fight he made them accept ludicrous deals. Pillow gloves & only fighting in hometown of Vegas where he was protected by the NSAC & USADA not to mention Vegas homie officials. Now to crown it all he has the dark cloud of suspicion hanging over his head over his highly illegal excessive Saline IV drip treatment. & why he needed it
    Forget him being a top ten ATG What he ought to be is banned from the sport Permanently until he provides a credible excuse.
    " My urine was dark very dark " is NOT a credible excuse ask any doctor or nurse
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He tooled both guys fool. I never said he couldn't adjust he didn't adjust when he faced srl in the rematch instead he quit. Yes Duran fought them but he lost more than he won he was 1-4 against hearns hagler Benitez and srl.:deal