Why do Idiots think Floyd Mayweather had more talented than a prime Roberto Duran?

Duran quit against Leonard. :conf

 

Back to the OP's question, in terms of talent, I guess I would need it defined before I could answer that question. Both had a lot of attributes that I wouldn't call talent, rather they were more or less God given, for PBF this would be speed, for Duran it would be his ability to take a punch and the power he possessed. Take was those from each fighter, and they simply aren't the same fighter.

The skill set they each developed was designed around these attributes. Duran couldn't have been Duran if he didn't have a chin of granite, and hands of stone, and if Floyd couldn't outspeed most of his opponents he couldn't use the style of defense he did, nor generate enough offense to win fights.

 

Just because you're past prime doesn't mean you should stop looking for challenges.

 

Really??? are you sure??? He also beat him dip****.

 

I was shocked how fast Duran's hands and footspeed were during the Montreal fight.

He has more speed and quickness than he's given credit for.

 

The Canelo fight almost broke the PPV record because it was seen as huge challenge. The Pac fight smashed the record because people saw it as a huge challenge including Tyson with his "perpetual motion" ****ysis Its only after Floyd wins, that suddenly the fights sucked, and weren't challenging.

 

No Oscar didn't face the best Floyd, but Oscar beat better fighters in his career than Floyd did. Excuses don't always apply to Floyd, but if you ask me who won more meaningful fights in their careers in terms of the level of competition, I'd pick Oscar. And if they were both in their primes, I'd also pick Oscar. But did Mayweather have a better career than Oscar given his win/loss record, yes. But would he have had losses if he fought Oscar's comp, most definitely, how many I don't know, but I know he'd have some. So that's why his record shouldn't mean as much as it does.

 

I don't know what planet you're from if you thought anyone thought the Pac fight was a "huge challenge", 5-6 years ago yes, but not in 2015.

You've lost all objectivity with that comment and as it turned out, Pac was crippled and still gave Floyd a good showing.

And I'd bet all the money I have that had the Duran of the Barkley fight been in there with either one of them that he would have won and probably KO'd both, particularly Pac, he was god awful.

 

I agree, and I also think his defense is woefully under rated.

 

You idiot of course people thought it was huge challenge. Thats why it sold over 4million. People tuned in really believing that Pac had what it took to beat Floyd. And Pac was no more crippled than he was the past 7 years since Arum claimed he injured the shoulder in 2008. The difference was he just met a superior fighter.

 

Maidana did beat Floyd Mayweather in the first fight but was robbed. Kenny Bayless made sure Floyd won the rematch:good

 

Both great fighters, at least in my opinion.
I would favor Duran at lightweight, which is 'prime' Duran. I don't think Floyd can keep Roberto off him, Duran was actually very fast at lightweight, it is really unfair to compare him to Castillo, or Maidana. I don't think he is as fast as FMM, but, he doesn't have to be, he just has to cut off the ring and get inside, he was fast enough to do that. At that point, he would maul him, although Floyd can actually fight quite well on the inside, and he had much more power at the lower weights too, so it is not inconceivable he would spring an upset, but for me, at LW, I pick prime Duran. Of course, no guarantee that prime Duran shows up, even when he was in his prime, but I would assume when comparing fighters we take them at their best?
As the weight increases, Roberto does lose speed, which he would need here, and has much greater likelihood of losing on points to Mayweather.
Don't see either man getting stopped at any weight. Floyd is just too good defensively to get stopped, and Duran is pretty much granite, with the exception of the Hearns defeat, and Floyd is so far from Hearns, that is not a factor.
Comparing Floyd's 49-0 to Duran's record is rather apples to oranges, Duran was 71-1 when he fought SRL the first time, that is already 23 more fights than Floyd had in his entire career. Also, why has Esteban DeJesus suddenly become a **** fighter? There have been more than a few comments to the effect of losing to him showing that Duran wasn't any good??
I don't think Mayweather would ever have gotten in the ring with Leonard, Hearns, or Hagler, and if he had been forced to, they would have beaten Floyd too.

 

He not only had a strong argument he was actually voted fighter of the decade.

 

Oh my mistake l could have swore a couple of people said this fight occurred 5 years too late prior to the fight taking place. And l didn't realize Pac was favored going into the fight. My bad.

 

Excellent post.