Why do Idiots think Floyd Mayweather had more talented than a prime Roberto Duran?

You're right.. They did say that after the fight was signed or rumored to be signed and not a second before...

 

Well if Floyd always had the disadvantages you claim here's a very simple question for you.

How many fights did Floyd have in which he was the underdog going into the fight?

 

x2 THIS. Montreal Duran would of beaten any ww in history that night. Pressure fighting 101. He wasn't just bull rushing SRL, he was outjabbing and outsmarting him on the inside AND the outside. Just look at how he makes the younger, taller, quicker SRL miss punch after punch in the final round, Duran is literally toying with him. That my friend is real defense. Duran really shouldn't of have gone north of ww, there were real killers and in an era filled with legends and atg's in every division. The best fighters Floyd beat would be journeymen in Duran's era, that's the truth.

 

That night he was amazing, SRL fought a great fight also.

Sugar Ray Robinson would have beat Duran IMO.

 

Understanding what completely past prime means
Mayweather was his absolute physical best at 130lbs, BUT Mayweather is a cerebral fighter who continued to evolve into a better fighter.
Mayweather also grew into the weights and didn't force himself to.
He also benefits from being a defensive fighter rising up the weights rather than an offensive fighter who don't rise up weight classes well.

When he fought Oscar, Mayweather was in top shape, he wasn't in his very best weight but was razor sharp, a more intelligent fighter than his 130lb days. But Oscar was completely over the hill on a completely different scale.
The same goes for an ancient 2010 version of Mosley, and a 2015-already KTFO in the worst possible way-physically 5 years past prime-surgery level injured Pacquiao.

This cannot be denied. The Floyd nuthuggers are the type of guys that naturally nitpick and probably have OCD in the outside world.


Montreal Duran and the misuse of Duran's fights vs Leonard 2 and Benitez
As for Montreal Duran, the reason why Montreal Duran won was because they were both championing the philosophy of 'outpoint by fighting' rather than 'amateur style pointscoring to win' which is what SRL did more of in the second fight.

People look at Duran vs Leonard 2, and Duran vs Benitez to think that Mayweather would do the same. This cannot be more incorrect but those with bias will NOT see this.

Duran vs Leonard 2 - Leonard was on the move a hell of a lot, but he would pointscore by actually engaging in a real fight in spurts (in a way where Mayweather doesn't have the capability of because he's not that kind of fighter). Duran was also not in the best condition, and as a pressure fighter, not in his prime weight which effects him more.

As for Duran-Benitez - Benitez is a more offensively sound fighter than Mayweather, and his defence is more instinctive and fluid. Benitez is also naturally a much bigger guy, this fight was at 154lbs and Duran by this stage is well past his prime. Duran was also in poor condition for that fight, that was also being made clear in the commentary. Being past prime anyway, look at how conditioning effects Duran i.e him vs Benitez, and him vs the KO monster Davey Moore. Duran's conditioning was far better in that fight, which thus allowed him to do some of what he wanted, and it was enough to win the fight.


If I was a Floyd nuthugger, I'd use the same logic that they go to and say Oscar has one of the greatest wins of all time, Julio Cesar Chavez. We all know Chavez was far past prime, and his late wins are just testimonies of his greatness. But Floyd nuthuggers would hold those losses completely against Chavez.

 

what a dumbass.

 

Don't even waste your breath bro. C.J. is stuck on stupid. He has been told that, over and over and over and over. :rofl

 

I would give Hearns a good chance at beating Duran also at 147.

 

Lmfao hearns beats any version of Duran including the Montreal version. SRR also destroys him and pea Whitaker would clown him as well.

 

No current or future fighter will make it into the top 10 atg the older guys are held to a higher standard and I'm fine with that. So you have to rank Duran higher h2h I favor pbf over Duran at any weight bad styles match up for duran.

 

That's because he was that damn good pbf could come back today and be the favorite over everyone in the world 154 and down. It's not his fault he was that dominant and in his prime only lost a handful of rounds. His style was a stylistic nightmare and a hard one to beat remember this there's no blueprint.

 

So Duran moving up in weight and beating prime Leonard has little to do with him ranking in the top 10 ATG???

 

It's really tough to imagine how it would. I can see Duran of Montreal swarming and bullying and overwhelming him. But then Leonard adding movement the second time around messed him up. But then he wasn't the same. Or maybe he was but just couldn't handle being humiliated. Floyd has a way of lowering other guys punch output and is more elusive than Leonard. But less offense. Would've been a great fight imo

 

Leonard is far more elusive than Mayweather. Leonard arguably has the greatest legs in the history of the sport.

 

Sure it does I'm just saying the older fighters are on a level that no current or future fighter will be able to obtain they won't be able to get into the top 10.