Why do Idiots think Floyd Mayweather had more talented than a prime Roberto Duran?

Well sure, I'm mentioning the Hatton weight because there is a truth to that. I just threw a truth out there that's all. That truth is never nullified by your next comment. Pac beating Hatton at his prime weight, 140lbs, defied logic. Mayweather beating Hatton at 147lbs doesn't defy logic.

I don't care who's fault that is, it doesn't change the fact that De La Hoya was completely past prime anyway. De La Hoya had fought at 154lbs for 7 years. De La Hoya is the type of fighter who fights the best, that's the difference. DLH doesn't even care if he's past prime, he's a true warrior. De La Hoya moved up to fight Sturm. He was a finished fighter by that time and the victory against a younger Shane Mosley ON STEROIDS as well as all the other fights took its toll on him and it was showing in the ring, and to make it worse he was fat and slow at the weight, but he didn't care.

 

You're right, his first 27 fights were at 130. Most of those were against total bums. Who were literally paid to be KO'ed early to run up Floyd's record as a prospect.

Then he fought a shot Oscar leftover named Genaro Hernandez for the title. Hardly too impressive.

Then he fought Corrales an overrated, plodding puncher who Mayweather had the stylistic advantage over. Pure boxers always have the style advantage over punchers.

He then defeated Carlos Hernandez who couldn't even defeat Genardo Hernandez and lost to freaking Jesus Chavez and Bobby Pacquiao.

At 135 he had his best win against Castillo. Jose Luis Castillo was the best p4p fighter Floyd ever faced in their prime. In addition to that Castillo had the style advantage over Floyd. Swarmers usually have the advantage over pure boxers.

In addition to that he defeated N'dou in probably one of his finer performances of his career at 135.

 

Pacquiao beating Hatton after Mayweather had already iced him and took his 0 doesn't defy ****.

And I know you don't care whose fault it was, because destroys your credibility in attacking Mayweather. You can't blame him for the timing of fights, when his opponent were the ones avoiding him.

And here's a link to Fat DLH at the Mayweather weigh in 6 pack and all.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/morgue/2007/05/05/50700-brute-punching-power-vs-finesse/

 

Because they are as dumb as him. If you pay everyone around you to shout TBE at every given moment then you have to be the best ever, right?

 

Hernadez was only 32 and had never lost at 130. Diego was undefeated too. But as usual, excuses get made when it comes to Floyd only.

Pac beats Hatton after Mayweather KOed him,,,, b..b..but Pacquaio fought him at his best weight they say. Mayweather beats Genaro at his best weight after he lost to Oscar at a higheer weight class, but he was shot right. :-patsch

 

If you want to go down that path be my guest but by that logic Floyd ducked Pac. The fact is and always will be that boxing is first and foremost a business and business decisions will often trump legacy considerations. This is precisely why Holyfield fought Tyson when he did and Lewis didn't. Yet few would say Tyson ducked Lewis.

 

Very good post.

 

This.

 

It does, because Hatton looked very good in his victories over Paulie Malignaggi and Lazcano. Hatton was back to his prime weight. Pacquiao should have been retired. Pac is the little nat, former light fly.

It doesn't destroy my credibility at all, they're two different issues. Stop the strawmen.

Fat DLH was referring to the Sturm-DLH on fight night, learn to read.

 

Okay then what exactly did RJJ and Lampley means by their comments.

 

Genaro was a very good but not a great fighter, and he was on the way down and stylistically disadvantaged vs Mayweather. It's a win I expected.

 

He defended his title at the weight 9 times.

The average record of his opponents across those 9 fights is;

35 wins 2 losses and 0.67 draws

Compared against Duran's opponents record in title fights at the weight he's seemingly the ATG at;

29.46 wins 4 defeats and 1 draw

 

Guys, you have to talk boxing with fans who know the difference between Great, All Time Great and Legend. If you're talking to a fan who doesn't understand these levels then just stop. The above poster Gannicus doesn't know the difference. ^^^^^^

 

De la Hoya destroyed Ricardo mayorga before he fought Floyd. He was past his prime but he still had plenty of skill left

 

Of course he did, Floyd at the end lost way more than odh had towards his end.. tho Floyd had so much more talent to lose.

It's all relative, what ever fits the casuals agendas..