Why do many fans feel Wilder and Fury deserve a 50/50 split for fighting AJ

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  1. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Simple question really. I want to here the respective fighters fans justify a 50% split for fighting AJ.
     
  2. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like fury but 60/40 for AJ is perfectly fair and same for wilder. I don’t know how warren is insisting on 50/50 after not even getting that off Wilder.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    60/40 for AJ vs Fury
    80/20 for AJ vs Donkey
     
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  4. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because AJ is a paper champion
    Got vacated belt from Martin
    Parker arguably beat AJ
    Wilder was suppose to fight Povetkin many moons ago.
    AJ fought old man Povetkin.
    Ortiz would have cracked Alexander in half like a Russian nesting doll.
    I hope Povetkin brings his balls & fights Ortiz. Ortiz will have povetkin dancing.
     
  5. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because its the only get out for these people to keep blaming AJ for the fight not happening. They can't bring it on themselves to admit that AJ wants the fights.
     
  6. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Fury is at the very least a bigger draw than Joshua. Wilder is a far more exciting fighter than Joshua. If Joshua and Hearn are so confident 50/50 is only fair.
     
  7. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Remind me again how many stadiums has Fury sold out and how many times he sold over 1 million PPV Buys. That's right zero.
     
  8. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So remind of the last time that Fury filled the Wembley Stadium or the Millenium stadium for that matter. Come to think of it. When was the last time that Fury filled the 02 Arena or the MEN. Fury is having a honeymoon period after his better than expected fight against Wilder but, prior to that, his level of popularity has turned into a bit of a myth.

    If you enjoy watching Wilder crushing cans and taking cherry picks as oppose to relatively competitive fights, well, that's your look out.
     
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  9. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You regard AJ to be a paper champion and yet, Wilder has only fought one mandatory and failed to even attempt to unify in what? 6 or 7 defences. How many titles does Fury have again?
     
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  10. BCS8

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    I really don't care.
     
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  11. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    Parker didn't beat AJ Joshua. The cards were too wide in Joshua's favour but no way did Parker beat him.
     
  12. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    Joshua is the bigger draw. He fights in front of 80,000 people regularly. it could be 80/20 splits and Fury and Wilder would still be getting career high pay days
     
  13. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    The Fury vs Wilder fight increased both fighter's popularity, particularly Fury's. But they both needed to make up a lot of ground on Joshua to even be considered a 35 to 40% split, that I doubt they even got there. Maybe Fury because he's British and won the fight imo.
     
  14. N17

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    It's not about 50/50 or 60/40 in my opinion, it's about the increase in percentages of their biggest purse and what works for them both, they both have a point in a way.

    I sort of explained my understanding of why they are struggling to do a deal in another thread but I'll go again.. These examples are not accurate but easy for calculations.

    Let's say Wilders biggest purse is 15 million, Hearn offers Wilder 22.5 million for Joshua.
    Now, That is an increase of 50% on his biggest purse.

    Now let's say AJs biggest purse is 30 million, Hearn offers AJ 37.5 million, That's an increase of 25% on his biggest purse.

    Both have had an increase of 7.5 million on their biggest purses, so in a way it's 50/50 but while Wilder has got 50% increase while AJ only 25%.

    37.5 million + 22.5 million.. 60 million in purses, that 22.5 million for Wilder works out at 37.5%, nowhere near 50/50.


    So there is your problem, If AJ agreed to those imaginary purses he gets a 25% increase while Wilder gets a 50% increase, AJ isn't happy.

    If Wilder agrees to those purses and knows he is getting a 50% increase and still knowing AJ is only getting a 25% increase, he is still only getting 37.5 of the overall purses, Wilder isn't happy.

    But they have both been given a 7.5 million increase on their biggest purses, that's 50/50 in a way and neither are happy.

    I know it gets a little silly when you are talking millions and millions and millions and there is greed from both sides, but I believe this is why they can't strike a deal.

    I think it comes down to, If AJ/Hearn accommodate Wilders demands then AJ is going to have to accept something maybe around or level to his biggest purse, if you're talking 50/50 then AJ might even have to take less than his biggest purse, but this is suppose to be "the big one" so AJ is asking why isn't he being paid more?

    Even in that scenario, Wilder in terms of purse pool is getting 37.5% and he isn't accepting that, he believes he is worth more.

    It just isn't as simple as there is 60 million, split that 50/50 and fight, in an ideal world it would be but somebody or both of them are going to have to lower expectations and maybe some demand and probably both "lose" something.
     
  15. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its sad that these challengers are not biting-at-the-bit at the chance of undisputed champion. Isn't that the ultimate legacy-defining moment of any boxer? only a handful of people in the history of mankind have achieved that status.

    Instead we have guys shouting about "one face" and "best fighting the best" etc etc but when offered legit money and the opportunity they either go silent or discredit the presented offer.

    didn't Floyd accept 20% vs Oscar? and now he has more money than he could ever spend.

    AJ is the A-side, he has the belts and he is the top-dog. If you believe in yourself like you say you do then take the offer, beat the man and become the man.

    Too many egos and divas in the heavyweight division right now.