Why do many fans feel Wilder and Fury deserve a 50/50 split for fighting AJ

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  1. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're drunk on your own fantasy. Wilder had great fights with Ortiz and Fury, while Joshua fought some bum and 39 year old shot pedvetkin. Gimme a break, Fury is far more entertaining than the pretty boy.
     
  2. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    All the talk is for the birds though, everyone knows that really, don't they?

    All this 'Boxer called out Boxer B' or 'One face, One name, One champion' or 'We're fighting men 50/50' It's all utter bollocks for media consumption. Behind closed doors it's about money and about winning. You don't give up anything you don't have to. The negotiation is just as much a fight as the action in the ring and there are no rules other than you deserve what you can get for yourself and your client.

    I know some hate any and all mention of it but I find this situation fascinating. There's a huge imbalance of power, resources, options etc with Joshua so far ahead of the game but then you have the two weaker parties group together and find strength in doing so. Wilder and Fury now have a legitimate lucrative option that don't involve AJ and they're naturally seeking to push that advantage such as it is.

    I don't think objectively either of them 'deserve' 50% but if they can get it from Hearn then good luck to them. It would take a miracle or an explosion of interest in one or both of them and even then I doubt AJ would sign off on giving 50% to a guy with 1 belt to my 3. I wouldn't, because he would be going in to a war having already lost a battle.
     
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  3. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    Because they either have an agenda, are naïve (or plain stupid) or simply don't understand or care about the fact this 'sport' is actually a business first.
     
  4. john roberts

    john roberts Member Full Member

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    With normal contenders ie no belt holders (including fury) they obviously should take less because they are getting a shot at the title, and the champion should be able to dictate the pay but with wilder it’s different, even though wilder imo can’t box very well and can’t draw a pair of curtains never mind a crowd he has something Joshua wants ie unification so take a hit on the percentage give him 50% but demand home advantage because you are the 3 belt holder and if wilder turns that down then he will be seen as a bottler otherwise it could be Joshua’s legacy that’s damaged for holding out for the extra because of this A side stuff, especially when you have millions somethings are worth more than money especially when you have plenty unless he’s the same as wilder full of crap also.
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wilder and Fury fans have to back their fighters demands for 50/50 otherwise they have to admit they are pricing themselves out and in reality not wanting the fight.

    Neither Fury or Wilder have ever earned or generated the kind of income Joshua does with each and every fight. There is no justification for either of them getting 50%.

    We've not seen a cash cow at heavyweight like Joshua since Tyson in the 90's and when you have a fighter who is such a huge draw that he dwarfs everyone else then everyone he fights always gets the short end of the purse.

    When Evander fought Tyson he accepted 29%.
    When Lewis fought Evander he accepted 33%.
    Seldon when unifying accepted 25% vs Tyson.
    Bruno accepted 17% for defending against Tyson.
    Evander accepted 25% to fight Douglas for the title.
    Tucker accepted 40% to unify with Tyson.
    Smith accepted 40% to unify with Tyson.
    Spinks accepted 38% to fight Tyson.

    So for either of them to say they want 50/50 to me says they don't want the fight. But of course their own fans can't admit to that.

    Now it can be a starting point to begin negotiations like when Parker did it but he quickly conceded and asked for 40%. When one of them concedes the purse split in a similar manner that's when we know one of them is serious about fighting Joshua.
     
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  6. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    It's because Hearn is making improved offers to try and get these fights done. The Fury/Wilder apologists now say not less than 50/50 will do so they can keep up their hatred for Hearn and juvenile claims that Joshua is the one ducking.
     
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  7. Ian_k

    Ian_k Active Member Full Member

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    60/40 to AJ is fair split
    Anything other than that he's being priced out of the fight

    In terms of ppv do what Warren suggested split it between both channels
    Everyone's happy then
     
  8. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    60/40 is more than fair to both. Anything less is a no
     
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  9. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny that Lewis has not once said how Wilder or Fury should accept the lesser split when he did so himself.
     
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  10. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is what AJ said in his sit down with DAZN. He sees it as both fighters should be getting an increase rather than him making sure his opponents gets a big rise while his doesn't climb at the same rate..
     
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  11. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    To be fair he has:

    https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/...lls-anthony-joshua-make-deontay-wilder-fight/
     
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  12. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ must get @ least 60% of any deal with Fury or Wilder he the man with the belts.
     
  13. BiggieL

    BiggieL Active Member Full Member

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    I'm a Fury fan but surely he can see that AJ has:
    The belts
    Proven record of selling out arenas / stadiums
    Proven record of solid PPV buys

    Tyson doesn't have those things, 60/40 in AJ's favour would be a blinding deal for him.
     
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  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yep have to agree, 40% would be by far his biggest payday, maybe double what he got for Wilder if it does 1.5 mill buys in the UK and a 8.5 mill live gate. And that wouldn't even include overseas sales. 40% I think would be at least $15 mill for Fury.

    But I don't think he's been offered that much yet, but if he does get that then he should take it, because it's more than he could ever make anywhere else.
     
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  15. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does anyone not trolling truly believe Fury or Wilder deserve parity?

    Both fighters:
    Joshua/Fury 60-40
    Joshua/Wilder 60-40

    Joshua is the money maker but Fury and Wilder (finally)
    have both proven that a fight with either would be a
    big economic boost to all involved (including Joshua)