Why do Marciano fans attempt to downplay Liston & Foreman?

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Justified concerns?

  1. Both must be downgraded to increase Rockys stock

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  2. Pure coincidence with no bearing on hypothetical match

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  3. Can't decide

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    To be honest with you, I always felt that the extreme Marciano haters were the problem.

    You have to ask the question of who is proactive, and who is reactive.

    Are the Marciano fans creating endless threads heaping praise upon him, or are the Marciano detractors making endless threads attacking him?

    If the later is the case, then it is the Marciano detractors who are pushing an agenda, and the counterargument of the Marciano supporters, is just the inevitable reaction to that.
     
  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Remember that thread showing Marciano landing three punches that didn’t KO his opponent, and people laughing at his power? I looked for it but I think it was deleted. I can dig up a lot more, I just don’t want to point fingers at specific people.
     
  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Worth reading all the nonsense in this thread to get to something great like this.

    Very well put.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I don't remember it but,I'll take your word for it.Point fingers I do!
     
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    Well there have been threads saying watch Marciano's fast foot work,look at his clever defence,admire his subtleties.
    I haven't seen any saying, look how easy to hit Rocky is ,look, how slow he is,look how he falls on the floor when he misses a punch,look how many punches he needed to stop C*ckell.
    So I think you are being, shall we say"selective?" Personally I think most on here admire Marciano ,but some including myself, get a bit p*ssed off with some of the more hyperbolic claims from him that his"Rockistas" promote,and counter them with their own arguments. I don't call that an agenda what would the agenda be, hatred of Marciano ,who would have that emotion, and why?
     
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  6. janitor

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    I refuse to believe that somebody who has been posting since 2006, has not encountered a few people who have an obsessive hatred of Marciano, and make multiple unsolicited threads attacking him.

    Anybody who has been posting on boxing forums for any length of time will have encountered the type.

    These people then try to paint the people who defend Marciano as being the extremist element, just for pointing out the holes in their logic.
     
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  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Yes old Levi Forte! These guys took many mysterious forms. Shape shifting and voodoos.

    Charlie Polite was another of this ilk. Charlie went 10 rounds with the bone crunching power of Cleveland big cat Williams before Joe Bugner dispatched him in three short rounds. Weeks after surviving the swinging steel hard blows from the blonde curly giant Polite then endured jet lag from the Atlantic crossing back home to tangle with George Foreman. There he mustered one more round of punishment than even Joe Bugner could dish out just weeks earlier.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    As a wise man once said “Exactamundo”
     
  10. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Ponce de Leon? Did he fight Cortez and Balboa too? They all must have been about 400 years past their prime. (Unless Leon actually found that fountain he was looking for...)
     
  11. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    The poll is interesting 8-4.

    Maybe my hunch is proving to be correct, time will tell.
     
  12. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I've been here nowhere near that long and I've encountered more than a few.
     
  13. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    As someone who endorsed your hunch, all that's being proven is that your perception is shared, not that the perception is accurate.
     
  14. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    I agree fully
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Never mind the story of successful fighters, I want to know more about the unsuccessful journeymen. Rags to Rags is a much better scenario. The names of some of these guys who pad records is just great. I came across a guy called Honnychile Whipple one time. I can’t remember who he fought but I bet his story is sensational.

    Perhaps Out there somewhere is a guy cleaning windscreens who fought George Foreman. Or for that matter any great fighter. In bars everywhere there is an old pug who played the part in padding a career.
     
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