Why do people accept the latino bias?

JMM and Cotto lost in competitive fights

Hatton was schooled,owned and KTFO same with Pavlik except he wasnt KTFO.

If you think there is a latino biased just look at Mijares, guy is on nobodies top 10 PfP list after being dominated by Darchinyan.

 

Mijares should NEVER have been in the top ten. that was a joke from day 1.

Is vic in the top ten now....

good post.

 

There is probably a slight Latino bias in the pound 4 pound rankings. But thats probably because of the excitement level of Latino fights and the fact that Latino's in Latin America and America make up the majority of boxing fan base.

 

If you are referring to mijares he didnt get on any top 10 P4P list so easily. He dominated Arce when Arce was arguably a top 10 P4P at the time but didnt make it on anyones list. Mijares had to string up wins and unify 3 belts to be recognized as a P4P figher.

Wheras pavlik only became a P4P fighter for beating Taylor.

 

You have been going on about this for a few days now...Im not sure that anyone accepts this...I will say this, for the most part Latino fighters lay thier balls on the line more often then other fighters do, and they tend to run the gantlet....While other tend to pick and choose wisely.

I will never forget Oscar talking about how the fight with Shane came about, and he said that he was tried of the Mexican in LA asking him when he was going to fight Shane so he did. The Mexican and Mexican American fans dont for the most part really care for excuses you fight or your a *****. Which is what kinda shocks me about the whole Margo vs Williams mess. But that is another story.

 

stereotypical much?

 

im actually somewhat offended by this idea...but I thought about a similar question to myself the other day

Have latino's become the gatekeepers of the sport...i mean...most athletes dont get recognition unless beating a HUGE latino icon...

Mayweather beat both DLH and Castillo and Chico...
B-Hop beat Trinidad and became huge...
You already stated Pac's case...
Vic Darchinyan is GETTING big because he beat Mijares...
Holt got big for accidentally winning against Torres...

the list goes on and on...


I think the boxing public is aware of the raw talent, heart, and discipline of the Latino boxing community and it becomes a somewhat unconscious thing that says...He beat that guy? Damn he MUST be good...Most latino fighters are typically one dimensional, but get the job done through workrate or heart or whatever the X factor maybe that most other fighters from other countries lack...

There's another thing you mentioned about "being exposed." Being exposed includes your performance against the fighter that exposed you. If it was completely one-sided and a domination of a fighter, then he was exposed. Pavlik's case shows that he did NOTHING at all that would suggest he had a chance and was exposed. Cotto threw everything except the kitchen sink and fought through many injuries before finally falling to a knee from exhaustion. He CLEARLY outboxed him and outclassed him in more ways than one, but just didn't have that extra gas to make it out of the fight. Another aspect of being exposed involves the hype that follows a certain fighter that seems a bit overwhelming for something that doesnt appear to merit such credit. Most people thought Pavlik was the next BIG THING, and was "exposed." Cotto on the other hand, although many questioned who out there can actually beat him, didnt really receive HUGE Pavlik-style credit. And whatever credit he DID receive, it wasn't unbelievable. He still IS a HUGE name. An incredible boxer. And a ballsy individual that told "the most feared man" that he'd fight him.


Hatton was exposed because of his performance. He was dominated throughout that fight. Nothing suggested a victory for him. On top of the performance, many believed that his record held no REAL credibility fighting in Wales throughout most of his prolific career. Whereas Cotto, fought all over, including the US.

Most latino fighters don't mind traveling to the states to prove their worth. ANd when they do, they usually get the recognition deserved. Most other fighters typically hide out in their respective country or continent and fight there, until demanded to fight in the US. By then, if they have one or 2 successful bouts (typically with shot fighters, or up and comers) they will be criticized for not having done it sooner (like most latino fighters do.)

 

take in to account the poor performances taylor and hatton had prior to their losses.

 

How?? its the truth. If you were to set down and really think about the 10 fighters that have fought more top fighters I bet 7 or 8 would be Latino fighters...

Stereotype would be saying that all white guy have small dicks. I didnt say that ALL latino fighters, I said that they do more often then others.

 

good point i forgot to mention! :good

That would add to the "exposure" idea...poor performances leading up to your loss confirms your "overhyped" career.

Most latino performances are HARDLY boring or poor. They are typically action packed and involves someone hitting the canvas. How many latino fighters are known for KO's? This might be another reason why it appears to be biased...

 

As a latino I have to say I do not see your point. Hatton was knocked out cold and Pavlik looked like an amateur. Loosing in a tight competitive bout is different. I think p4p means that even if you loose to one guy who had your style beat you still beat the other contenders. This is why Marg is just entering the picture. He's a long running champ but considered crude. But now he is being given his credit. Chavez was p4p for a good while but he had a long reign at the top. Bhop wasn't knocked out of top ten after loosing to Calzaghe.