Why do people disregard Hayes record at cruiser?

Really?? atsch ?? Toney, Holyfied, Cunningham, Adamek, Gomez, They weren't more impressive than Haye at cruiser? How many title defenses did Gomez have?

Mormeck and Enzo Mac ...Uhhh ok. Both good fighters yes. But Mormeck was knocked out two fights prior and Enzo Mac was good but not A level.

 

Here is the flaw in your logic..... How many title defenses did Gomez have?
Ask yourself this who is the better fighter Holyfield or Gomez? your answer if you have a brain is Holyfield... You do realize Holyfield did not defend them titles he unified and moved up... so defenses do not make you or break you in this sport.....
in other words, Haye does not need to have a long list of accomplishments going in, in boxing its not how you start the game its how you finish the game that counts...
Saturday is the start of the finish for Haye, he will capture and unify the titles and then its on to the other Klitschko brother....

 

Bull****. Not one of my post claim Haye is a bad fighter. But he is no better than a lot of these guys Klitschko has knocked out or defeated in the past who ARE good fighters. The same ones this D-bag Haye has called derogatory names. AGAIN ...Haye is a good fighter BUT NOT on Wladimir's level.

 

I consider the CW division a nonsense. It's nothing more than a HW B division really. It's no surprise really that the best 'CW's' have almost all been natural heavies that weight drain. I've said it before and I'll say it again, If Wlad beats Haye easily enough then a win over Haye wont mean more than a win over Byrd x2, Peter x2, Chagaev and Iggy, not by a long shot. Wlad has quite a few other victories on his CV that yet also may turn out a lot better than they already are. Chambers for instance is the right age to grab a World title when the Klitschko's retire and with the body of work he already has would be another better victory than Haye.

If Wlad wins feel free to quote this in the future.

 

Just stating ONE of the accomplishments Gomez did have at cruiser that Haye didn't. And by your ****ing logic winning belts earns you the right to be compared with all time greats. Didn't Buster Douglas become undisputed at heavyweight? How many defenses did he have? Right:good

Holyfield ...dude you need to stop putting Haye's name in the same sentence. Holyfields chin and gas tank BLEW Haye's out of the water. Handspeed was about the same and he beat a few GREATS at heavyweight. Haye hasn't even come close NOR WILL he. Klitschko in time will be considered great and your boy Haye will be his 50th knockout. Enjoy watching on the 2nd. :good

 

Some of the guys he knocked out are good fighters but most like Haye said, showed up for a paycheck and most were fat and out of shape, thats a statement of fact.

I give a **** what you consider the cruiser weight divison to be honest with you and of course your entitled to your own delusions, we have the fight Saturday....
Just saying all the trash talkers need to stick around dont come back under a new alias... though we know you will.

 

I really think you mis read my entire post perhaps your english isnt so good...
seriously, regarding Evander I will never compair the two because to me Holyfield is the best Heavyweight/cruiser weight that ever lived.... thats just me....
However if you think Haye is going to be Wlads 50th well its your delusion your entitled to it...

 

I'm a Haye fan. I wont be bothered if he wins fair. I just see no reason to go along with his delusional nonsense where Haye saved boxing by beating Enzo and Ruiz.

 

No I read your post just fine and responded to it fine also :good

Enjoy the 2nd. Haye's getting his lights turned out

 

Who is saying that? you aint heard that **** so why are you throwing it out there? Nobody has said that, in fact most who support Haye support Haye because he brings a little bit more than Jab jab grab to our sport, he does the title more justice than these two boring ****s....

 

Like I said Todd Bring your sorry ass here when its over....

 

Oh, I was taking you serious for a while there. I know better now, you're just another non boxing fan troll. I think I'm done with you now.

 

Sorry ass? Ok there internet badass :good
I'll be here

 

Mutha ****a be done with me I didn join ESB to speak with your sorry ass...

 

He was never the champ, just a belt holder.