Why do people hate Amir Kahn?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Maxmomer, May 17, 2010.


  1. mugen82

    mugen82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lmao Rush Limbaugh, he's just shut out Mallignaggi in his hometown, and is making big moves, he's the standard bearer in this division now, and the big name. With Roach in his corner, he can go as fae as he wants to, and become a P4P great.
    He was headlining ppv's cos he's got more boxing talent than all those you mentioned, aside from maybe Martinez. So he got caught cold once against a lethal puncher, he's got off his ass, and whooped every1 in his path since then and surpassed his Khanqueror.

    And you cant sit in LA, if that is where you really are, and claim racism has nothing to do with the hate Khan gets, jut look on any Khan video on youtube, and its obvious its a massive factor.

    But hate will only last so long, he's already getting a massive following in the US, and with his looks and new found charisma he showed off in the post fight interview, he's gonna go very far, and will be successful enough for you to hate on him for a long time.
     
  2. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Racism certainly is everywhere, but can you name any current famous pro fighter who receives more racial attacks over the 'net than Khan? I definitely can't think of one, and I'm trying to be as objective as possible.
     
  3. PetethePrince

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    Dude you basing it on youtube comments? Come on... save it.

    Sure, there's a undertone of some racism everywhere, and with Khan maybe a little more so than others. But ever since Jersey Shore it's like everyone's calling Malignaggi a guido like there's nothing wrong with it. And obviously some said it before, but garbage like that made it okay. People think that's fine though. Yet if someone calls Khan a "Paki" it's racist. That might be a racial term but if it was one I didn't know. Honestly, it's short for the country. Like Pinoy. But apparently that's bad. It's no worse than guido. I don't care what society or newly found social standards tells you, but it's all the same to me.
     
  4. WatchfortheHook

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    Well, here's the thing, it happens to a lot of fighters. For instance, like I said regarding the Abraham vs. Oral videos.

    "Bow to the Armenian King you Mongol Turk. And then take your **** back to Mongolia"

    "Yeah ****in turk bow to the KING^^ "

    "Turks bow to your king just like dis ***** *****. "

    " Allways will be like this - armenian will bit turkish! **** turkish! "

    "ther is one conclusione the video yo see we armenians have brave you turks are a pice of ****"

    "The Armenian King ****ed up the Turk "

    I can go on, but theres a lot to sift through, and Mahir Oral isn't exactly a superstar so you would think he'd have far less.

    I'm not dismissing it, like I said, I'm sure there's plenty of people who hate him because of his race, and I'm not going to pretend that there wasn't a particular poster who was being racist on ESB about the weigh-in...however you may be overlooking that a LOT of people called him on it and put him down even if they didn't like Khan. I'm just saying that in boxing this sadly isn't all that uncommon...especially on youtube where racist comments are everywhere.

    I'm not British, so you have better insight than me, but how much racism is from true die-hard boxing fans as opposed to countrymen who are racist who are simply out of place on a highly visible athlete? I don't follow football(soccer), are there any footballers of Middle Eastern background to compare him to over there?
     
  5. PetethePrince

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    I think you're speaking of a centralized problem with the Brits or British fans. But to me I don't see ESB and see a country. I think most people dislike Khan not for race on ESB. A least the good posters... so you're speaking on a centralized thing. There's no way people in the USA hate him more because he's Muslim or Pakistani.

    Good post
     
  6. mugen82

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    Froch has been chatting **** for years, and fully deserved the things that came his way.

    British fighters are more than willing to go to the oppositions hometown and get a vedict, or knock the opposition the fck out, Benn, Lewis, Hamed, Khan, Hatton, Calzaghe, Froch have all done this. He's the money name in the 140 division now, he's whooped ass on HBO, and the network big wigs love him, sure he doesnt deserve it, but thats where he is, and with roach in his corner, he can be as egotistical as he wants to be, cos Roach/Ariza make him put the work in the gym, case in point, him looking as fresh as he was in the 11th round as he was in the first.

    Lmao, its boxing, the name of the game is to hit without getting hit, the one critisicm ppl levelled at khan was that he was fghting more for the crowd than himself, especially when he stupidly brought himself into toe to toe exchanged with Gomez. Khan is mkore than willing to mix it up, u dont knock a guy out in the first round by being a ***** all the time.

    Oh yea, then y the fck did Javed Khaliq never fight infront of even a tenth of the audience that Khan fought infront of? Khan is loved by ppl accross the board, not least my mom, who's a middle aged white woman.
     
  7. hoopsman

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    Oh, would you shut the **** up?? I don't dislike Khan per say, but I feel he's grossly overrated by a number of Brits on here and that colors my (and likely that of others) sentiments toward the kid. Moreover, he's a bit of a big mouth and I've never been overly fond of big yakkers, particularly big yakkers who have yet to accomplish anything commensurate with their talk.

    When, or should I say if , he fights Maidana, then we'll have a better barometer to judge this kid. Otherwise, he's an overhyped Brit with fast hands, no more and no less.
     
  8. Goodfa

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    I have seen those type of comments too. I can't believe how Youtube allow racists comments like that. Ok call someone **** or whatever, but idiots who post racist **** are just brain dead losers.
     
  9. hoopsman

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    Yup. :good
     
  10. Goodfa

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    BTW: I don't like Khan for a lot of reasons, but his race has nothing to do with it.
     
  11. Philphy Rich

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    Myth.:patsch
     
  12. PetethePrince

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    That's great. Khan came off as immature and childish.

    What are you trying to make me do? Like him more with this? His skills impressed me in his last fight. But the things I listed are why I don't like him.

    LMAO you're getting affected by my opinion (Unfavorable) of Khan. Why, what are you his cousin? He at times wouldn't exchange with Malignaggi when Paulie went on the offense. He just covers up so that fragile chin doesn't get knocked out. It's like it's been on his mind and he's more weary. His skills and talent are great but if he can show me offense combined with difference in exchanges with good punchers than he can be the "crowd-pleaser" he and his promotion team claim him to be. I don't like his style. I'm sorry.

    Khan is better. Obviously, and his fans will help throttle him to an undeserved status. They've done it before. And most of them are Asian/Pakistani. That's fine, it's natural.
     
  13. Outboxer

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    So if some white/black/whatever guy walked up to a brown man on the street and said 'Hey, Paki" you would find that completely normal/appropriate? You may not care what social standards say, but the fact is that 'paki' is seen as a derogatory racial term. It's just like if you called a Hispanic person a 'spi c'. Sure, it may be a shortened version of their actual name, but it has undeniably malicious connotations a lot of the time, when used by people of other races. It would be silly to ignore this, and the 'social standards' you refer to, because we all have to live in said society. (Unless you plan to exile yourself or something.)

    Oh, and there is nothing wrong with basing things off Youtube comments. Youtube, whether we like it or not, has become a mainstream vessel of expression for society -- most of the things that people fear to say directly or in public find their way onto YT, or other parts of the internet, due to the anonymity it offers.

    It's true that people -did- call those posters on their racist comments (it wasn't just one guy, though, it was definitely more than that). As far as I can tell, most of the racial attacks come from countrymen who only have a casual understanding of the sport. (The same idiots who thought Hatton would stomp Floyd, just because he was British.) Most of the hardcore boxing fans (at least the ones in the Brit forum) disliked Khan more for his management/chin/attitude.

    As for footballers, I don't follow the sport, so I unfortunately cannot help there...from what little I've seen, nothing comes to mind though.

    It's true that I may be speaking of a more centralised thing -- I have little idea how he's treated in the USA, but as far as I've heard, Khan seems to actually be treated better over there.
     
  14. hoopsman

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    Khan is getting a "massive following" in the US? From whom, I wonder?? How many would pick him to beat Maidana? I'll wager not too many.

    That Khan is the "standard bearer" in his division is as much a function of his hype machine as anything else.

    Finally, to incorporate the phrase P4P great in the same sentence as Amir Khan is stunningly premature at best, wholly delusional at worst.
     
  15. MrMagoo1986

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    U should check out the khan maidana thread, most ppl pick khan. Maidana is seriously overrated, has power but thats it, no boxing ability at all, khan will box him silly