Nobody hates Manny much. What's to hate? He worked his ass off and became a great fighter and all of what that entails. He used the fame to get into congress and will likely do well there? Good on him. Just some of his entourage and the more deluded fans are rightfully held in contempt. Oh, btw... KTFO6 :admin
why would I need to hate Pacquiao huh? Do I hate any of Floyd's other opponent? I do dislike Guerrero, but that's because he's an annoying loud mouth. I started disliking him when he turned down the fight with Paulie. But I just don't start disliking fighters for no reason.
Funny you say that when you're one of the most biased Manny fans on this entire forum. You can't be reasoned with, you're in absolute denial, absolutely delusional to the facts. A quick search of my posts will show you I'm not a *****, I was one of Manny biggest fans, but I also call a spade a spade...
Why would something like Pac, not accepting Floyd's new testing procedures, something Floyd never had done before himself, and AFTER being accused by his family, be the cause of so much hate? That makes little sense. You have your reasons...and obviously refuse to admit them. It's all good...you can hate who you want, for whatever fake as reason you come up with. It's what we do as fans.
Retort? It invalidates your entire argument. Obviously Pac was able to perform so your nonsense argument doesn't hold. There is also tape of Roach stating how much good sparring Pac got AFTER giving blood. The testing protocol is the testing protocol because it has been PROVEN not to negatively affect performance. You can keep throwing pseudo-scientific sh*t at the wall hoping something sticks, but the fact is that you and Pac are full of crap.
What do you see as Pac's personal INVOLVEMENT in the Marquez 'n Bradley outcomes, S? He stood in the ring and heard the judges decisions, period.
Yeah, I'm sure you thought so. But no. It's OK. there's posters like Puga or PrinceN, maybe michiganwarrior or LarryX for you to discuss things with. :thumbsup
Are you starting to see a trend here? Some posters use the weakest reasons to garner so much hate for a fighter. Like i said, I think many here hate pac first, then look for justification after. Or use silly things that Pac has no control over, like bad scoring or what fans say. atsch
What rational reason did Manny have to refuse blood tests? Because Floyd hadn't asked opponents before? That's preposterous, you're grasping at straws, and his opponents since then all have had no issues. It "weakens him?" Show me any proof of this, medical professionals, athletes who take the blood tests etc. disagree with you. Floyd has to take the same tests, argument null and void. You are the same one bitching about how Floyd's fans supposedly don't take responsibility for his actions, yet are the first to condone and downplay Pacquaio's BLATANT dodging of blood testing
:huh Except I've never said that. I see this is how you operate. LIke i said, we're on different levels, and I prefer not to dumb myself down to yours. I have enough "fans" on this site as is. Forgive me if i 'forget' to reply to much more from you. maybe MVC can provide some intellectual stiumulation for you. :thumbsup
I've already mentioned that frame of thought may have worked 2 years ago, but it doesn't anymore Canelo vs Trout has OSDT Khan vs Peterson II had OSDT Garcia vs Morales II had OSDT Berto vs Ortiz II had OSDT Tim Bradley vs Provodnikov had OSDT Jean Pascal vs Bute has OSDT Donaire vs Rigondeaux has OSDT and may I mention that this fight was very similar, but Rigo manned up and accepted the tests http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef1vBM96F_I [yt]Ef1vBM96F_I[/yt] I mean, that argument just doesn't hold weight anymore. Yeah Floyd never asked for testing before, but neither had these guys either. What's wrong with asking for testing? And everyone of these guys accepted it too with no fuss
Those are both fights that should not have been made. We were subjected to that due to Pac's sneaky ways. Not sure of the exact timeline at this point, but first Pac had to have his cut heal then an outdoor stadium needed to be built. Once Mayweather moves on? Pac is making fights left and right. Then on top of this, he goes and performs poorly against Bradley and gets KTFO by Marquez. The guy killed all buzz by being exposed for who he really was.
What reason? How about...it's not required and NO ONE was doing it? Get this through your dense skull boy, Pac didn't refuse testing for two reasons. 1. They ARE tested already. Do younot know that? Plenty od boxers have been cuaght by the current system. And 2. it was when the testing would STOP that killed the negotiations. Sorry cyrax...you're another poster who is too much a floyd fanatic to bother continueing this with. If you can make genuine posts, NOt based on your assumptions, maybe we can do this again. Until then...later! :thumbsup