Why do people hate Manny Pacquiao?

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Don't make me laugh.

 

Baldie, in the lounge you come across as a reasonable dude and I agree with your progressive positions most of the time.


In the GF, however, on the topic of Floyd/Pac, you come across as a clueless brain-dead ****** with little to offer other than characterizing everyone with a take different to yours a *******.

And posting well reasoned little gems like this

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pretty much cements my case.


Contrary to what you state above (when you're not name-calling) OSDT have never been a part of professional boxing protocol. The boxing authorities have always conducted their own tests and Pac has taken and passed all tests ever requested by any boxing commission.


You have to be pretty ****ing gullible to think that Floyd had any motive other than fear to suddenly demand OSDT tests when he had never mentioned the like before in regards to any other opponent.

And this view has been stated by Marvin Hagler, George Foreman, Roberto Duran, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones Junior, Sugar Shane Mosley, DeMarcus Corley and numerous others. Lately, even Floyd's good buddy 50 cent has admitted that the man was scared to face 'the midget.'


How much use were OSDTs in catching Marion Jones ? Lance Armstrong ?

Both were tested up the ying-yang and never caught.


It's pretty ****in obvious to anyone unblinded by the rabid bias you've consistently displayed on this question, that the whole OSDT issue was introduced by Floyd when he saw what happened to Hatton and Cotto.

 

I never though about number 3.. haha I always though he was actually scared of needles but never thought about the tattoos he had.. kinda funny. But being real here, I always donate blood to the red cross and I went with my friend last month at one of the blood donation ralleys, as soon as they started drawing blood from my friend he passed out cold and was lethargic the rest of the day. it effects people different.

and about number 5. Floyd ducked mosley at one time too. not to mention ducking pac :deal

 

I like how you have ignored all my posts destroying your arguments, until you think you might have an angle to nit pick at The standard testing they do is total garbage, isn't random at all, look at SSM to show how easy it is to beat it. You mean Floyd demanding that random testing be instituted to level the playing field is ridiculous? Who cares how common it was at the time, does it change the egregious act Pacquaio committed by blatantly dodging the test? Oh and once agreed to the tests, he demanded ridiculous cutoffs rendering the tests nearly useless, so GTFO outta here :rofl:rofl The best reason you have been able to come up with was that "Floyd never asked anyone before." :rofl

I'm a Floyd fanatic? Search my posts, and feel free to show me how that has any truth. You're the delusional ******* on here defending a blatant PED cheater, and you hang around all Pacquiao threads defending him and hugging his nuts, so shut up

There is a reason you dodged my other posts, because I dissected them apart, and you have no logical retorts to make.

 

This is it, in a nut shelll. And you are right, just about everyone sees this as the case, aside from smoe loyal fans on ESB who refuse to admit anything bad about Floyd. Shoot, few even believe he's laid a finger on any women before. Just poor Floyd and trumped up assault charges.

 

I'm not getting into the test issue here Cyrax. I've posted on it hundreds of times and made my position clear.

I'm simply pointing out that your earlier post was incorrect when you stated that Pac cancelled a fight with Mayweather.

That never happened.

 

People hate Manny because of this picture

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Except, in regards to #3, he never said he was afraid of needles. Not once. That was Arum who said that. What's kind of odd is, to most here, Arum is nothing but a liar. Yet they take his word for something like this? Color me confused!! :nut

Props on being a blood donor BTW. I do blood and platelets whenever I can. :deal

 

Yeah either that or he had common sense, knowing how much of a failure the commission sanctioned tests are. You have guys like SSM and Evander Holyfield who have proven how easy it is to beat those tests, and yet Floyd is afraid for wanting a more stringent test? Of course no testing is perfect, he just wanted the highest level assurance possible, that here was a level playing field. With things like blood doping, EPO etc. you need to monitor levels OVER TIME to catch it, and there is no denying the independent tests are much more effective than the commission's joke of a test. I mean for crying out loud, they actually have forgotten to collect samples all together after fights, and you want to trust them? There is no set of rules for state commissions, they all do their own thing.

 

And you think it's a coincidence that he decided this just when Pac was seen as his boggest threat? Why no 'level playing field' for anyone else? Lets say...vs. JMM for example. And if a level playing field was SOO important, don't you think Floyd would have made the 144 vs. JMM as he was supposed to? Kinda shoots down your 'he wants a level playing field' theory, seeing how he just said **** it, and bought his way out of it.

The current testing is not perfect, and neither is USADA's testing. But the current standard HAS caught many high profile boxers, so it's not like it's completely impotent.

 

He didn't force Manny to say no.

 

Trust me, bhs, Manny, like Sollozo said to Tom Hagen, the consigliere in the GODFATHER, "You give me too much credit, kid." Manny hasn't a Machiavellian bone his body.

Arum 'n Koncz make all decisions. I've seen it up-close, behind the scenes.

 

While this can endear manny to certain fans, it also backfires. Oftentimes, people will respect someone who speaks up.

 

I believe this is true. But ultimately, all he had to do was say..."I'll take the tests, let's do the fight."

He didn't. Not for a couple years anyway.