Since Bernards amazing victory last night proves that he is still dominant force in boxing and than Calzaghe's victory over Hopkins proved to be far greater than first realised. But alot of people are still saying Pavlik is a great fighter which i think he is at 160lbs but if Calzaghe lost in the same fashion to Hopkins he would of been the biggest hype job in boxing history and everyone would of dismissed his whole career. many people still think he has to prove himself and fighting Jones Jnr still doesnt confirm his place as an ATG. So i ask what does he have to do to be recognised as a legend who only just got noticed at the end of his career, does he have to beat Jones or is it because he is Welsh?
After last night's fight, the only possible fights left for Calz if he beats RJJ are Dawson and Hopkins II. I really doubt he'll fight Bernard again, and I don't know if Joe C could get 'up,' motivation-wise, to fight Dawson. We'll see. Pavlik would get rolled by Calzaghe.
the only twat i can see certainly isn't a Calzaghe fan. Also why should Calzaghe get a bad rep for his fans, Hattons fans boo'd the national anthem of America when he fought Floyd
I'm just indifferent about the cat. I can imagine that even if I had a problem with the guy it would be difficult to bash him. He's pretty humble when you consider his record. I'd still like to see RJJ whip'eem though.
Last night Hopkins proved he can beat Pavlik, The MW champ moving up. that does NOT mean Hopkins would beat top 175ers. I think people do recognize Joe as a legend. Just not as great as many UK fans want him to be seen. Who's fault is it he feasted on too many hand picked palookas? Or his biggest wins are two old legends (Hopkins and Eubanks), and 2 young fighters (Kessler and Lacy) who haven't done much themselves yet. Mainly it's the fanaticism of the Calzaghe fans that make other posters hate him. Same thing happens to ALL fighters, not just the welsh.
I have a problem with the fact bernard just beat an amazing fighter but some how its turning to "Joe has just beaten Pavlik" it starts to make me angry. When did joe beat pavlik? How did joe beat pavlik? Did he beat pavlik when bernard(on paper!!!)lost to calzaghe? So jermain beat pavlik too right? These people are so stupid its just sad they pollute this site
No one is saying that "Joe has beaten Pavlik". It's just that last nights fight makes Joe Calzaghe's win even better. Everyone was saying that Hopkins has no stamina, is too old etc., and last night he dominated a top ten P4P fighter. It proves that Calzaghe and Hopkins are both elite fighters. It proves that the Hopkins that Calzaghe beat was still very good and worthy of his top ten P4P spot.
Joe calzaghe does not have the same style as bernard hopkins so please get it through your thick heads. Calzaghe is more of an aggressive slapper with the ability to change up during a fight at anytime but he aint got no power. Calz would be more in the face of pavlik then bernard so there would be many more oppotunities for pavlik to catch calzaghe then hopkins.
So true. The Calzaghe fans are looking a lot like the rabid Klitschko fans.... They've been mocked so many times, they will act EXACTLY like the childish posters they too hated before.
This is a good pernt ( Point )..because as LL says.. " Styles make fights "..such as Ali=Frazier=Foreman...Here, Taylor beat Hopkins...Pavlik beat Taylor, Hopkins beat Pavlik,,,makes no sense...BUT< ahhh,,I recall mentioning on here that Pavlik will be not as crisp at 170...he should stay MW atsch
When Joe beat Hopkins everyone was saying he beat an old man who was past it and last night proved that Hopkins is still a world class fighter