Why do people here think boxers can beat mma fighters in mma rules or street fight?

you’re drifting the conversation to purist vs purist style, im only talking about bjj because its one of many tools a mma generalist could use. the value is not equal when a boxer has 0 rating across the board in different attributes of fighting.

0 kicking
0.5 clinch grappling
0 Wrestling takedowns and top ctrl
0 bjj
3-5 boxing hands



a solid mma fighter would have a 3 rating across the board plus boxing.

i gamble for a living. no one i know would put money on a boxer vs any solid mma fighter. white belts get chewed up.

 

read the first post. how many examples do you need?

for every one example you show me, i’ll show you ten.

 

i never said any of those statements, i stated boxing is 1 aspect of mma and can hold their own against a large percentage of the population . But they fall short against a grappler or mma guy.


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i said there is a brief window where a boxer could connect, but you're not going to knock someone out easily who is used to sparring every day. Also the boxer has never dealt with kicks either, you can argue the boxer has some poor tendencies as well because he has no awareness for leg kicks. Look at mike Tyson's early days against low skilled boxers, he knocked them out sometimes within 2 rounds. that is way too long for a grappler who could shoot a takedown, and most mma fighters fall under that skill set of club boxer. It's a misconception by boxing fans that boxers can go in there and level someone in a few seconds. It's even harder trying to level someone who is constantly shooting at you or attacking your lead leg.

 

false, most mma fighters prefer to clinch and nullify the danger. Even if a boxer landed a punch , the mma fighter would pickup the sense that the guy can throw hands and act accordingly. A puncher's chance is next to almost no chance. A lot of mma fighters also have an instinct to dodge and clinch or takedown, even strikes. Also this workds the other way around, a boxer who has no clue about the mma fighter would rush in with his eyes focused on his opponents shoulders waiting for the punch and then they eat a rear high kick.

Very rarely you actually see a 1 punch ko or a flatlined boxer without a ten count. Even a knockdown, increases the chances of the mma fighter recovering and shooting for the legs. mma fighters also eat heavy kicks and knees, having a good chin has nothing to do with combat sport you fight at, it has to do with genetics, look at Ngannou or Mark Hunt, both have massive heads and jawlines, they have granite chins, same is true in boxing , a small chin or small cranium equals a weak chin.

 

tim sylvia was 300 plus pounds and had gotten cracked by fedor prior. look at his physique and muscle mass was gone from his ufc days. he looked like a couch potato. Mercer had also just fought not long before that and won a regional belt from a european boxer, mercer actively fighting and heavy hands played a part .

Mercer lost all of his kickboxing matches too its not something that is ever mentioned. Against 1 guy who wasn’t even good.

Like i said earlier, for every example you have for me( 1 example) i have ten more.

it’s funny to me that even pure world class wrestlers and bjj champions have to cross train to compete in mma, but so many if you think throwing punches is enough. No boxer could win an mma match on any level in the ufc. they would all get destroyed. Tyson fury wants no part of mma with Ngannou for a reason.