Why do people knock Max Baer when he won fights

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Oct 11, 2019.


  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,362
    4,472
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Sep 21, 2017
    You may say that he's unskilled but he beat some very good world class opponents of his day. Even if he didn't do things by the book or look like poetry in motion, doesn't mean that he wasn't skilled.
     
  2. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,219
    299
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Jan 28, 2007
    Because he made obvious, glaring mistakes that would be punished in any era after his own. He fought in the transition between older and modern times and he was pretty crude for both eras. His saving grace was his solid chin and punching power, but even still that would only carry him so far against the best, and the skill sets of the best were improving with each decade by the time he stopped fighting.
     
  3. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

    4,482
    3,786
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Sep 21, 2012
    This.
     
  4. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,864
    4,682
    Sportsbook:
    1,875
    Nov 22, 2014
    This. Baer was actually very skilled, but like any great fighter had styles that he struggled with.
     
  5. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    31,328
    22,252
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Aug 21, 2012
    For the same reason people laugh at Wilder today. Minimal skills, one trick ponies in weak eras.
     
  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,362
    4,472
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Sep 21, 2017
    Max Baer had maximal skills
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Not here for the fairy tales Full Member

    17,536
    7,636
    Sportsbook:
    876
    Jan 30, 2014
  8. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,256
    1,203
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Aug 18, 2012
    Baers limitations were well known in his time. This has nothing to do with some imagined progression of boxing talent historically. Every era produced great fighters and each would shine in any era.
     
  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,362
    4,472
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Sep 21, 2017
    Yes. Yes I do.
     
  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,362
    4,472
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Sep 21, 2017
    Max Baer would beat a lot of skilled fighters. Mayweather Jr is much more skilled but Max would kill him in a real fight. And before you say that because he's bigger, if you took an actual unskilled oaf off the street and put him in with Mayweather Jr, what do you think would happen?
     
  11. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,797
    3,040
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Aug 15, 2018
    Max reminded me of an earlier version of Foreman just not as good.
     
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  12. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Bronsonville Full Member

    7,498
    12,196
    Sportsbook:
    500
    Jul 25, 2015
    Because he was extremely crude, for any era. This doesn't stack well for H2H discussions here. And you can't even argue intangibles, since he frequently acted like a clown and flip flopped like a bipolar girlfriend.

    Great power and chin though.
     
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Not here for the fairy tales Full Member

    17,536
    7,636
    Sportsbook:
    876
    Jan 30, 2014
    You're right. Baer was a far more formidable fighter than an actual oaf off the street. If that is your frame of reference then yes, he has skills.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Pimp C's Full-Time Tutor blocked Full Member

    16,080
    20,402
    Sportsbook:
    500
    Mar 3, 2019
    Smashed it here
     
  15. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,528
    668
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Mar 20, 2013
    When you actually have a chin like granite and a killing punch along with some handspeed , you can go very far.....but maxie hated boxing
     


Sign up for ESPN+ and Stream Live Sports! Advertisement