Why do people not acknowledge that Hopkins/Pascal 2 was a close fight?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why do people not acknowledge that Hopkins/Pascal 2 was a close fight?

    Hopkins put on a great performance and fought well, but the Hopkins/Pascal rematch could have gone either way.
    The journalist reporting in The Ring mag said watching ringside he scored the fight 115-114 Pascal, but when reviewing changed his score to 115-113 Hopkins.
    He claimed also that some seasoned fight journalists lining press row saw it as a stalemate.

    I on first reflection saw an even fight when scoring round by round but as a fight overall would closely call Hopkins a winner. I will have to watch again.

    I understand Hopkins is an American legend but that shouldnt influence scoring or opinions.

    So how did you really score Hopkins/Pascal 2 and did you think it was a close fight that you could have seen going either way?
     
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  2. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I thought Hopkins won by 2 points, but it was ****ing close.

    People don't really score on a round by round basis, they just get an overall feel for the fight. I scored the first fight 6 rounds a piece, meaning Pascal won.
     
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  4. withoutwire

    withoutwire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I remember scoring it about 4 rounds in favour of B-Hop. Clear victory.
     
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  5. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins won a close but clear fight. What more do you want? What was the point of making this thread?
     
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  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :lol: Knowing Failey, he'll only sleep better if EVERYONE in the world knows Hops had a close fight with smeone he doesn't consider very good at all. Look at how badly he and his ilk look at Jirov since he lost to Toney. :patsch
     
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  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Read above and you can see that one person also saw a draw.
    Im guessing you are a nuthugger who could only see the fight one way and got drawn into the history making, more than you actually knew.
    Philla saw a close fight and obviously wasnt taken in with the making history part.
    I said overall I think Hopkins but it was a close fight and normally in close fights people bring in different opinions. On this one where many saw a close fight, the Hopkins fans have brushed that part under the carpet like you would like to
     
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  8. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you dont score the fight, then it feels fairly even. Pascal was in the fight up to the 6th round

    Scoring it is a different story. Hopkins won the fight clearly. Most close rounds have to be given to Hopkins, bum rushing every minute or so is not enough. Hopkins consistently landed punches. Pascal landed a good punch every once in a while. Whether or not a single rush wins a round is up to the judge, but imo that isnt the sweet science
     
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  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :patsch That's why in this thread, i even stated that it was "close but clear". And i'm such a Hopkins nuthugger that i have always stood by the belief that Calzaghe CLEARLY beat Hopkins.
     
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  10. blacktopbully

    blacktopbully Boxing Addict banned

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    For my yearly charitable donation I too say it was a close one

    Hope I made this child happy
     
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  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hi *****. Can you show me any evidence of how I rated Jirov? You cant.
    Anyway I thought I was on your ignore list :lol:. I knew with you being a stalker you wouldnt stay away :patsch. Terrible
     
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  12. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    I think Hopkins dominated hard in the rounds that he won.
     
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  13. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Why do people overlook the 2 missed kd's? I had it 115-113 hopkins, either that or 116-112 but hopkins really won that fight.
     
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  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have to agree that Hopkins did dominate in alot of the rounds he won, which is why I felt as an overall fight I would score to Hopkins, but what about a round by round basis?
     
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  15. TitoMahawk

    TitoMahawk Retarded trolls detector Full Member

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    Close but clear...OWNAGE!
     
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