Why do people pretend that boxing below lightweight matters?

Are you trolling and trying to be funny, or are you just an idiot?

atsch

WHAT is happening to this forum?

 

This place has gone to the dogs.

The sad thing is, this guy's probably serious.

 

Please stop.

Your posts are cringeworthy.

Just please put us out of our misery.

Are you trolling, or are you an absolute idiot who knows nothing about this great sport?

The greatest boxer of all time doesn't have to be a HW you absolute clown.

What do you think P4P means?

What do you think weight classes were invented for?

 

Oh this thread is still going on?

 

Alright Immanuel Kant, get off the boxing forum, you have work to do.

 

Yes very true I dont think the disinterest has anything to do with ****ting on the smaller weights but its hard to sell jockeys to populations where the average is much larger and the above average dwarfs them.

The majority of posters here are posting from countries where the average is between 5,8-6,1.

Dominic Cruz is the UFC bantamweight champ but hes not significantly smaller than the average person..

The smallest boxing weight class is minimum weight which is 48kg, what are they 5,0. How can you get excited for this ?

 

That's probably fair. Thing is because the 2 fighters are evenly sized I tend to forget quite how small they are. They're just crazy little speed demons to me.
Maybe it has a lot to do with a relative lack of familiarity. I mean, it's not really feasible for many, including me, to watch a lot of the cards in e.g. Japan and Thailand.
I wouldn't be averse to ditching straw and junior fly divisions. Participation numbers are lowest of all weight classes. Knockout CP Freshsmart is exciting as ****, but he'd be alright at flyweight.

 

It's true, most sports don't bother with so many categories for inferior athletes.
You don't have a tennis league for guys who are too short to be world class servers, or rugby teams or US football teams made up of little guys pretending to be champions.

You don't have high jump for short guys, or long distance running for guys who are too big to be good over the distance.

Combat sports have weight classes so tough little guys can pretend to be world class fighters, I guess.
truthfully they can't compete with the best, so they construct a barrier.

 

So the little guys can say "I'm the best in the world" too.
Lots of little guys like fighting, so the weight classes were invented so they could brag about being world champions, or whatever.

Back in the old days of English pugilism there were no weight classes.
But some of the little fighters were admired for their effort but could never become the champion so they constructed the stipulation that they'd fight anyone below a certain weight. That gave them a chance to carry on competing in a sport that they were otherwise physically unequipped for.
They were failing so they changed the rules to their advantage and made off with a minor prize.

 

Again:

 

Well, you asked the question. Perhaps you don't know boxing history.
Caleb Baldwin was the first weight class champion, lightweight.
There's no getting around the facts.

 

200,000,000 watched Jun vs Commey at 122lbs...how many wasted Wilders last fight....
8million IN TOKYO ALONE watched Yamanaka vs Solis, how much interest do you guys need?
Inoue vs Parrenas got more than 6million, how many did Thurman vs Guerrero or Garcia vs Peterson get?

Could go on and on....

 

Combat sports need weight classes because of the obvious dangers of two highly trained guys fighting with a massive weight difference between them. If a smaller fighter has the skills, and often times they have more of them than the heavier guys, then the weight classes remove something that no one can really work on to much; size difference.

As i mentioned earlier, it is all relative. A good fight and a good fighter is a good fight and a good fighter, regardless of size, when looked on in that context.

If you only enjoy the big guys fighting as they are literally the best fighters in the world then, by that token, do you only watch fights involving top ten fighters as anyone below that is moving out of the realms of the best fighters in the world? By the logic of some posters here, were they only enjoy watching, literally, the best fighters in the world, surely that means they only enjoy watching the Wlad's, Fury's, Povetkin's and Wilder's of boxing?

 

Yes, that's true.

Yes, but good welterweights or good featherweights are good compared to men of their own size. Not good compared to the men at the top of the sport as a whole.

I probably prefer watching the middleweights and welterweights generally, but then might enjoy watching lower leagues in other sports too. I might enjoy watching two 5'6 guys playing tennis but I don't expect them to compete with the power serving top players, and don't feel the need to have them set up a separate world championship.

I'm not against weight classes, just pointing out the facts. Heavyweights are the best fighters because the other guys wouldn't dare compete with them.