Why do people seem to reckon Pac will the same fighter upon his return to the ring?

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  1. tonys333

    tonys333 Active Member Full Member

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    :lol: are you mad i know your a floyd fan but you dont need to come out with this pathetic **** pac knocks jones out
     
  2. Dedication

    Dedication Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For the life of me I can't think of any fighter that's made a successful comeback after getting knocked out in their thirties. But that's just me. I'd like to be proved wrong.
     
  3. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :twisted: yall stop sh*ttin on Mike
     
  4. Dedication

    Dedication Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His chin sadly wont't be the same.

    P. Williams iron chin - gets cracked by S. Martinez - never the same

    Hatton iron chin - gets cracked by Mayweather - never the same

    The interesting thing with Pac is that he got knocked down earlier in his fight with Marquez as well. That's definitely a clear sign. His chin is shot.
     
  5. gyll

    gyll Undetectable Full Member

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    Not a big of a KO as JMM's but maybe Lewis vs Rahman? Then again that was more of a fluke and they fought only twice. Pac and JMM has had many wars and JMM has mastered that big overhand right.
     
  6. tonys333

    tonys333 Active Member Full Member

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    :lol: i dont mind mike he just isnt beating pac i would have liked to see jones fight kell brook tho
     
  7. JMP

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    Robert Duran beating Davey Moore and Iran Barkley for titles at 154 and 160 after being brutally KO'd in his 30s.

    Lennox Lewis stopping Hasim Rahman, Mike Tyson, and Vitali Klitschko to end his career after the embarrassing Rahman knockout loss.

    Archie Moore beating Willie Pastrano, Nino Valdes, Bobo Olson, Joey Maxim, Jimmy Bivins, Yvon Durelle, Bob Satterfield, and murderer's row Bert Lytell after suffering a number of KO losses in his 30s.

    ...it can be done and solid returns have happened. That said, I'm not so sure Pacquiao will be one of them. So I'd tend to agree that he'll never be the same. His style is so dependent on physical gifts (footspeed, handspeed, raw explosiveness). One bad KO loss can send a fighter like that on a downward spiral if it physiologically causes them to lose a step or two and makes it neurologically easier for opponents to disconnect them from their senses.
     
  8. Emeritus

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    You are absolutely correct but to be honest anyone who he fights from here on out is likely to be prepared to sit down on their punches.

    I don't know if I would even put him in with Bradley as you say he has a fairly good right hand. He really needs someone to save him from himself no matter what he thinks, he needs to take it easy because he could end up ruined - see Roy Jones who thought when he fought John Ruiz that a few years later he would be considered a glass jawed joke?
     
  9. tonys333

    tonys333 Active Member Full Member

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    what do you mean paul williams won his 2 fights after martinez i no lara was a robbery but his chin looked fine to me in that fight.
     
  10. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hadn't really considered that until I read this post. In my years, I can't recall one either.

    Might be a good idea for a thread.
     
  11. craigwelshboxer

    craigwelshboxer Member Full Member

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    lennox lewis came back against rachman
     
  12. Changfoo

    Changfoo Guest

    Pacquiao got knocked out cold like unconscious type of KO.
     
  13. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    Who?
     
  14. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree. He pummeled Margarito and was well ahead on the scorecards. The fight should have been stopped! Manny did everything in his power to get him outta there, but at a certain point anyone with a conscience has to think rationally.

    Margarito had nothing left. I doubt Pacquiao wanted to bear the burden of giving someone serious brain damage or worse.
     
  15. Clydebank Blitz

    Clydebank Blitz Don't Be Scared Homie Full Member

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    On predictions and not flash KO's alone, which non Mayweather/Marquez fighter knocks Pac out? Or even beats him? His speed and power is still there, and just because he's been taking the defencive opponents doesnt mean anything is lost.

    BUT, fighters sometimes never come back the same. People mention Hatton, but I think he's in a different catagory. Pac might have really been effected by this, MIGHT, but I don't think it's fair for anyone to predict it until we see him get out there. You think Pacman will be running scared though?