Why do people slate Floyd for putting in place random drug testing??

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  1. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Floyd knew he would refuse the test and he knew Pac would turn down the 14 day cutoff to when he tried to compromise
     
  2. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    fight was done until floyd added in osdt...video of manny was done in 2005 where he does not want blood taken close before the fight.

    pac's counter to floyd's version of osdt was sufficient. there was no drug that pac could take in 21 days that would make him a beast/unbeatable and undetectable.
     
  3. :lol: the vid i posted was after the first negotiations where he repeated the same exact thing from 2005. so his opinions on the blood testing has not changed.

    dude, he didnt even want testing 15 days before the fight. that should tell you everything you need to know.
     
  4. Boxing Fanatic

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    yet, u guys r fine with him demanding a test when there already is 1. if he wasnt afraid of pac, he would have fought him with the commission tests. he avoided pac in 2009, plain and simple. hes doing his best now to play it safe now that pac aint the same fighter any more. i bet in his heart he hopes the fight happens so he can beat pac and prove he didnt duck him :lol::patsch
     
  5. :patsch ok buddy, yes that evil genious Floyd JUST KNEW pac was afraid of needles and would turn down his biggest payday ever just to avoid that test. and yes, you can bet your ass i am fine with fighters being clean on fight night. the fact that you're ok with fighters turning down extra testing says alot about you. this boxing, one of the most Shadiest sports with alot of BS and under the table **** going on especially with the big money involved.

    ******* logic is amazing!

    pac turns down random testing and ends negotiations.

    *******s: "Floyds a coward, Floyd ducked.":lol::patsch
     
  6. dodong

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    pac's counter offer was unlimited urine test all the way to fight day and 3 blood test.

    there is no known PED other than hgh, whose benefits won't take effect after 3 months, that can escape detection from what pac offered.
     
  7. Floyd is an undefeated fighter with alot to lose. if he wants to make sure his opponent is clean like himself in the biggest fight of his career, so be it.
     
  8. :lol: it's not a myth he said it on that vid i posted.

    straight from the horses mouth.
     
  9. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if these two never fight this will continue to be one of the dumbest debates ever this who ducked who nonsense but just for kicks I decided to go look back at some of the articles that were in the news at the time www.doghouseboxing.com/Benz/DHBenz1211b09.htm http://www.aolnews.com/2009/12/17/freddie-roach-on-the-mayweathers-olympic-style-drug-testing/ now I'm not going to try and pass these off as the best sources but it's crazy how you have Freddie roach saying they'll agree to any testing yet 3 years later we're still talking about this it's also interesting that as soon as floyd agrees to the weight penalty that's when drug testing becomes a problem now i'll admit floyd could have been more compromising but it takes two to make a fight happen for those saying this was just an excuse how would floyd know pac wouldn't except drug testing when his own trainer spent the whole time saying it was no problem
     
  10. ajackman1

    ajackman1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    HGH, Madol, methasterone, Deca Durabolin, HBOC, Transfusions, certain forms of EPO's such as Mircera, blood doping. There is quite a few more on the banned list.
     
  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    floyd is the dumbest psychic I know :lol:
     
  12. ajackman1

    ajackman1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As I previously said there are a number of peds That only Blood tests can detect such as HGH, HBOC, Transfusions and forms of EPO such as Mircera. There are different techniques which can be used such as Paramater testing which is done by blood and biological passport testing which is also done by blood. Another reason why blood is needed is because only blood can test for blood doping. There are a lot of effective blood doping methods, boxers are using and cheating and only blood can find it. For example blood is needed in order to measuring Hematocrit levels. An elevated Hematocrit Can provide A huge advantage to a fighter by enhancing oxygen uptake and utilisation. This would benefit A fighter during training and especially during the later rounds of a fight. Another blood doping method which can only be detected through blood is Holomogus blood transfusion. This is where extra blood cells are transfused into athletes in order to improve performance. Only Blood tests can detect this. There is another method of blood doping called HBOC's and these increase exercise capticty better than EPO's do. This is very appealing for any boxer trying to cheat. This can only be detected through Blood Tests. Urine tests cannot detect HBOC's because of the fact that not all HBOC's are excreted by the kidneys. Blood testing is extremely essential
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

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    Google's great isn't it?
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

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    Pac has proven he's clean with his passing every test. But if you think that, I guess you would also agree that Floyd's first 41 fights are suspect as well? **** it, ALL of DLH's career is suspect. As a matter of fact, Hearns, Duran, Leonard....ALI, Frazier....ALL suspect right? :roll:
     
  15. ajackman1

    ajackman1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nah, I didn't need to, those are the ones I could remember of the top of my head. There are more on the banned list